[herbie]

Best advice if you're driving in BC
If you see a red Saturn or a black Wrangler gaining on you, pull over on the shoulder and stop until its gone.
If you don't you risk feeling like a snivelling ball of chickenshit, cuz that's what you are or it wouldn't be gaining on you.

[Xort]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

So I'm driving at 80kmh and this brick wall jumps out in front...I'm pretty much dead.

Now I'm driving at 160kmh and this brick wall jumps out in front....am I twice as dead?

Learning to avoid those brick walls would be a start.

At 80km/h you stand a reasonable change of living through a crash into a non moving surface like the supports for a highway overpass or a stopped vehicle if it's bumper was low enough to catch your bumper.

If you hit a semi trailer it's likely going to kill you as your vehicle goes under the most of the trailer and puts the passenger compartment into the back of the trailer, right at about sitting head height.

A video of a crash test of a modern car at 80km/h into a wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MsqJFoWSjI

And a slightly less scientific crash at 100mph (160mh/h) by mythbusters. Skip to the 1min mark for the crash. See what double the speed does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFkn37BDvTw

[andyt]

YOu shouldn't even reply to Pluggy about this - his question was just idiotic.

[Brenda]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

The first thing Canada should do, is make sure people can actually DRIVE. That means, have them educated by professionals. NOT by mothers/fathers/friends, who have also been taught by idiots.

Have you seen most of the drivers in BC? They're terrible and the worst are the young and immigrant ones who've gone through mandatory driver training.


My guess is they're worse drivers than family trained drivers because; there's no carrot and stick incentive by going to an anonymous instructor who when you pass the dubious course never sees you again. Whereas screw up when dad's teaching you to drive and it's no car, no allowance, no TV, no anything because the adult family member sees what you've done.

So, if you want to have professional instructors, then by all means get people who are professionals and not mindless drones who load these kids into cars and have them drive around town at 30kph while they stare vacantly ahead for the entire lesson. Otherwise, don't bad mouth family members teaching their kids how to drive because, experience and caring are alot more effective in instruction than having someone who couldn't give a shit constantly repeating what's written on a gov't issued syllabus.

When you live in a drug invested shit hole in the boofucking middle of nowhere, with people who have never seen the other side of the mountain but know exactly where to find drugs (and booze, but that's easy), and drive drunk, AND teach their kids how to drive drunk/high, then, fuck yes, I will bad mouth them.
Got a problem with that?

12 teenage kids with N-licenses lost their lives in cars in the past school year here. In an area of about 15000-20000 people, that is A LOT.

I find it very scary, and very annoying, that the people that I see driving drunk/high every goddamned day, are teaching their children how to drive. No tv, no car? Are you KIDDING???

[Canadian_Mind]

andyt andyt:

YOu shouldn't even reply to Pluggy about this - his question was just idiotic.

It's a bit silly, but it makes sense. There comes a point where no matter the speed you are going, you're toast. I think anything greater than 100kph it doesn't really matter what it is you are hitting or how fast you are actually going, either way you're dead.

[andyt]

Just not nearly that simple. You don't usually hit brick walls. You may be hitting a car going in the same direction as you, so the speed diff might be minor. You may have time to do some braking or just glance off the other car or object. The point is that the faster you are going, the less time you have to react, the longer it takes to brake, the more likely a rapid turn of the steering wheel to send you into a skid or rollover, and the greater the impact forces when you do collide. By your/Pluggy's logic, all accidents on 100+ km limited roads are fatalities - just nuts.

The question is what is a reasonably safe speed considering drivers, cars and road. We seem to have enough carnage at the speeds we already have set. I can't speak about the Island Highway, haven't been past Parksville for a long time, but for the Coq I thought 110 was a decent speed, 120 is pushing it. My main concern is with the drivers. I think we are not very good drivers in BC and can't really handle the higher speeds when in heavy traffic. Collectively we drive like we're the only ones on the road.