[Curtman]

andyt andyt:

Didn't know that.

So then you can understand how the RCMP don't just want this guy toking up in public - the public won't understand anymore than your kids do. (At some point you'll probably want to have a conversation with them about what you're doing, and the diff between that and just getting zonked.)

And this guy really pushed it, filming himself in the red serge - in the RCMP's face. I'm ambivalent about this. He does have a point to make, in the sense he needs to be allowed to toke up while at work, but I think he should also meet his employer halfway and do it as discretely as possible. Moot now that he's been put on medical leave.

Sure he pushed it, and I think it's great that he did. I feel the same way toward the comments from people around here. I completely understand why he did what he did.

LANGUAGE WARNING!


A human rights complaint would be great for all of us.

[1Peg]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

But the difference Curt is that smoking or possession of Marijuana is a crime without a prescription.

Anything under 28 grams (1 Oz) is decriminalized. You get the same fine as walking down the street with a beer.

[Curtman]

1Peg 1Peg:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

But the difference Curt is that smoking or possession of Marijuana is a crime without a prescription.

Anything under 28 grams (1 Oz) is decriminalized. You get the same fine as walking down the street with a beer.

Where?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/11/26 ... 14388.html

$1:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper says his government will never agree to the decriminalization of marijuana.
...
"No, it will not happen under our government," Harper said. “We're very concerned about the spread of drugs in the country and the damage it's doing and as you know we have legislation before the House [of Commons] to crack down."

The dumb on crimers are completely opposed to that.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

Oh you're talking to me now? In a pot thread? Is it only certain days of the week? Please advise me which ones.

Corinne is taking dalteparin, we don't let them watch her use needles either.

I don't take Tylenol, I don't use drugs.

Gonna cry about it Curt? Gonna run away with a temper tantrum?

I'll call you out when your hypocrisy shows...which it did in this case.

Why lie to us? Your a marijuana user. You're a drug user. Period.

Be proud, smoke a joint in front of your kids.

[andyt]

He's a drug user the way Shep and FOG are drug users. Maybe the time will come when you become a drug user too. Maybe you already do for one ailment or another.

[Curtman]

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Be proud, smoke a joint in front of your kids.

every April 20th I light up in public

This is the result of billions of dollars worth of prohibition:

Would you be OK with him popping Paxil in uniform instead of the best treatment available to him, because of the optics?

[Gunnair]

Actually, I'm somewhat torn here. What we're talking about in some ways is public perception of something legal, and hiding it because the public might not understand is a disservice and assumption the public is incapable of a not so subtle nuance. The fact is medical pot is legal, the member has a valid prescription, the member is on desk duty as he uses this prescription. If he was taking a legal pill form of medication, this would not be an issue - he'd be popping those in his red serge no questions asked. Yet there is moral outrage because he is smoking pot (which he has to - can't consume it in food and a vaporizer is problematic) Medical pot is no different than any other prescription - taking that prescription is legal, taking medical pot or other prescription drugs that you are not prescribed is illegal.

The RCMP brass is wrong here and is nailing this guy very hard for his legal action. Yeah, the guy is making a bit of a show of it, but he's standing up for what he think is right. His prescription is legal - like any other prescription - and his use of it is legal - like any other prescription. Pounding on him while using it at work - which is legal and he is in the admin desk job to do it - because he is smoking it - not allowed to consume it - is pretty unfortunate and hardly surprising. Unlike those guys who are accused of sexual harassment and racism, this guy is an easy target which takes the attention away from all of the other ills that haunt this force.

[Gunnair]

Curtman Curtman:

I don't smoke joints. Occasionally I do though......

Curious. You sound like Rob Ford.

[andyt]

Well put. But I think they were letting him smoke up at work, just do it inconspicuously. Both sides should have sat down and worked it out. Win win instead of another lose lose for the horsemen.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

Well put. But I think they were letting him smoke up at work, just do it inconspicuously. Both sides should have sat down and worked it out. Win win instead of another lose lose for the horsemen.

They absolutely should have allowed him to smoke at work, or they should have put him on medical leave, which is retarded. They guy wants to work, can do his desk job, but that unlike any other guy on a desk job with a prescription, this guy gets bag hammered for it?

Nonsense. Such conspicuous lack of effort towards real problems but look what the brass accomplished with this fella!

[andyt]

He has to go outside to smoke up anyway. Just throw a poncho or something over his uniform, or maybe he doesn't even need to wear a uniform for a desk job. And with those needle joints he's smoking, shouldn't take him too long to finish one.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

He has to go outside to smoke up anyway. Just throw a poncho or something over his uniform, or maybe he doesn't even need to wear a uniform for a desk job. And with those needle joints he's smoking, shouldn't take him too long to finish one.

He could do that, but why? Is he was on an anti-depressant he doesn't need to hide his uniform to take them, and they become as illegal as pot if he takes them without a prescription. He's taking a legal prescription. If the RCMP does not how he is taking his legal prescription, then get him a vaporizer. Punishing the guy for taking his prescription in such a public way sets themselves up for a lawsuit and good for him for doing it.

[andyt]

I'm curious why you would be so favorable to medical pot, but so down on general legalization? Just saw an interview with a doc who said there are absolutely no prescribing guidelines for pot. So nothing about what ailments it's meant to treat, dosage, effectiveness, side effects, etc. It's the wild west of drug prescription. He said so either docs just refuse to prescribe at all, or they just take the patients word for it as to how much they need and what for. Not a medical approach at all. Might as well just legalize the shit and let "patients" self-medicate. That's what many tokers are doing anyway, just like many boozers.

[Curtman]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Curtman Curtman:

I don't smoke joints. Occasionally I do though......

Curious. You sound like Rob Ford.

Generally, I don't. It's one of the least effective ways of using it. A vapourizer is about the best delivery method you can find. Baking with it is good too, you can make butter with it, put it on a sandwich and nobody would ever know you're medicating.

If you're out to make a political statement though, smoking a big fatty on youtube is the way to go.

[andyt]

Curt - when I've eaten hash, all it did was make me ill and not get high. Smoking it worked like a charm. So I think how you take it can also determine if it works for you or not.

I hope they come out with a cannabidiol pill soon. It seems to be the medicinal ingredient in pot and is not psychoactive. That would weed out the phony medical users, let the genuine ones take it like any other drug without impairment.