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Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

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Video Shows Law Enforcement Officers Slashing Tires at Minneapolis Protests

A week ago, there were many reports out of Minneapolis that protesters, reporters, and even medics had found that the tires of their cars were slashed at some point during a night of protest. Witnesses said at the time that law enforcement officers had carried out the act. And now there is clear evidence to support that claim. Mother Jones located video footage that shows officers slashing tires at a highway overpass. The officers at the scene appear to be a mixture of state troopers and county police.

The gray car in the video is the one that Luke Mogelson, a writer for The New Yorker, had rented to cover the protests. When the protests last Sunday turned violent as officers fired tear gas on peaceful protesters who were out after curfew, Mogelson went to check on his car. One officer told him he would tell his colleagues that the car was a press car. When he later went to get his car, officers told him about the slashed tires. “They were laughing,” Mogelson told Mother Jones. “They had grins on their faces.”

Mogelson was hardly alone in experiencing the slashed tires. Andrew Kimmel’s video of a walk-around his rental car with all four tires slashed gained lots of traction last week on Twitter. Kimmel at the time assured that police officers had been the culprits. Kimmel had no doubts about the claim, noting that police took over the area after the protests began. “No protester would’ve been able to get in here after that,” he wrote. Far-away video also appeared to show law enforcement officers slashing tires, although it is not as clear as in the video above.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/slate.com/n ... otests.amp

[rickc]

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

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rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

I wouldn’t mind. Mandatory body positions during certain songs is a bizarre concept if you think about it. Its not just thought police but also body police; you are not only required to think patriotic thoughts on musical cue but must pose your body in a specific posture while doing so. Or else.

Besides its only sports for fucks sake not something that actually matters

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That's like saying a flag is a bolt of cloth.

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rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

I would. Mandatory body positions during certain songs is bizarre concept if you think about it. Besides its only sports for fucks sake not anything that actually matters

OK, fair enough. I appreciate your honesty, and I respect your opinion. I was asking because I suspect that there are a fair number of people that are ok with NFL players disrespecting the American national anthem, but would be appalled at professional athletes disrespecting the Canadian national anthem. Just a hunch mind you, nothing to back it up. Perhaps a poll?

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rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

Yes. If they're protesting something that Canada is seen as complicit in, it's a peaceful demonstration of civil disobedience against.

EDIT: Additionally, people getting excessively butt hurt over it down there is a contributing factor to these protests. Don't want us to take a knee during the national anthem to bring awareness to the fact that police across the country are trained like dog shit? Then we'll protest in the streets every day.

When you ignore or ridicule demonstrations like this (or basketball players wearing shirts during warmup, or olympic athletes holding up a fist at a medal ceremony) then they just up the ante. Maybe pay attention to this stuff before bad shit breaks out?

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rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

If the cause was just, sure. If someone takes a knee to protest the treatment of First Nations in Canada I wouldn't have one problem with that.

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Also, take a step back and realise that people were more upset over someone taking a knee during the national anthem that SOMEONE BEING FUCKING MURDERED.

Sort your shit out.

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rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

Yes. If they're protesting something that Canada is seen as complicit in, it's a peaceful demonstration of civil disobedience against.

OK, fair enough. It seems strange that a lot of people on this Canadian forum do not care about national anthems (that is their right) yet I have never seen anyone in Canada not standing for national anthems on televised games. I remember a few years ago there was a game in Canada where there was a sound equipment malfunction during the playing of the American national anthem. The crowd in attendance finished the American national anthem by singing out the words. For a crowd to know the words of another county's national anthem, and to sing them does not look like a country that does not care about national anthems.

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OK, fair enough. It seems strange that a lot of people on this Canadian forum do not care about national anthems (that is their right) yet I have never seen anyone in Canada not standing for national anthems on televised games.

Where did I say I don't care about the national anthem? I'm just not so soft that someone protesting issues within Canada by kneeling during it sends me into a rage. It's a means of peaceful demonstration in an attempt to bring about positive change, that doesn't hurt or inconvenience anyone. It's literally the best form of protest that average people could ask for. Americans are just snowflakes when it comes to anything remotely connected to patriotism. Perhaps you need to figure out why someone unarmed being murdered in the streets by police causes less outrage in good ol' boys than taking a knee during the anthem.

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I remember a few years ago there was a game in Canada where there was a sound equipment malfunction during the playing of the American national anthem. The crowd in attendance finished the American national anthem by singing out the words. For a crowd to know the words of another county's national anthem, and to sing them does not look like a country that does not care about national anthems.

Again, you're conflating "not caring" with "not being soft". I love Canada and I stand for the anthem because of it, but I'm not going to throw myself into a frenzy of rage and hatred because someone takes a knee during it.

Also the words are on jumbo trons, and screens when they play normally.

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xerxes xerxes:

rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

If the cause was just, sure. If someone takes a knee to protest the treatment of First Nations in Canada I wouldn't have one problem with that.

OK, fair enough.

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Also, take a step back and realise that people were more upset over someone taking a knee during the national anthem that SOMEONE BEING FUCKING MURDERED.

Sort your shit out.

Sort my shit out? The vast majority of my posts on this forum are in the U.S. police misconduct thread. I probably contribute more there than any member on this forum. Give your head a shake.

You say that people were more upset over someone taking a knee than someone being murdered. Really? Why don't you point out all the massive protests in the U.S. over taking a knee that led to riots, and looting? How many businesses were destroyed by people protesting taking a knee? How many people were killed over protests over people taking a knee? How many people were tear gassed, maced, assaulted, shot with rubber bullets, arrested, over taking a knee? Get me some some numbers on all the death and destruction from the taking a knee protests to back up your claim that people were more more upset over someone taking a knee than someone being murdered. I call bullshit!