[desertdude]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

desertdude desertdude:

martin14 martin14:

It is the West's own fault for allowing it.

Sure is, if they would have just let the Jews stay in Europe where they actual are from, none of this would be happening

The Jewish people were living in that region for more than a thousand years BEFORE Islam even became a religion.

Not the current breed of European Jews who make up the majority there now. And since when did the Torah become a legal land deed recognized by the international community ?

[desertdude]

raydan raydan:

But that's like if I asked France to give me land since my ancestors lived there.

Maybe it would have been better if they had gotten land somewhere else, not surrounded by Arabs. The state of Nevada would have been nice.

Original plan was to give them a piece of land in Kenya ( The Uganda Plan )

[desertdude]

Jon Stewart once again

[BRAH]

Rockets were fired at Israel's airport and now all US flights are grounded, trying to kill more innocent civilians nice going Hamas.

Jon Stewart's Leftist logic, Israel is more technically advanced than Hamas so there's no need to respond to the rocket attacks just bend over and take it.

[2Cdo]

raydan raydan:

But that's like if I asked France to give me land since my ancestors lived there.

Maybe it would have been better if they had gotten land somewhere else, not surrounded by Arabs. The state of Nevada would have been nice.

No it's not like that. There have always been Jews in the Middle East, but they were always in a minority living amongst the Arabs and Muslims.

[2Cdo]

desertdude desertdude:

Not the current breed of European Jews who make up the majority there now. And since when did the Torah become a legal land deed recognized by the international community ?

The people who always comment on "Palestinian land" always being Palestinian land just hate when you point out that the Jewish folk had been there longer.

That's my last comment on this thread, you folks have a good time arguing over who is good and who is bad.

[Goober911]

West Bank settlements
Note how this is now 4 separate areas for a unified State..
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... cdmap.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... -west-bank

And due to your B&W, here is a link that shows expansion.
Feel free to check it out.
http://online.wsj.com/news/interactive/ ... 1789714506




2012

[BRAH]

This is what happens when people don't buy into the pro Hamas propaganda bullshit.

[Goober911]

BRAH BRAH:

Rockets were fired at Israel's airport and now all US flights are grounded, trying to kill more innocent civilians nice going Hamas.

Jon Stewart's Leftist logic, Israel is more technically advanced than Hamas so there's no need to respond to the rocket attacks just bend over and take it.

Did you read the article on the Israeli Politician calling for a land war as the kids could not enjoy summer camp.

[Goober911]

desertdude desertdude:

martin14 martin14:

It is the West's own fault for allowing it.

Sure is, if they would have just let the Jews stay in Europe where they actual are from, none of this would be happening

Israel was going to be a State.
No changing that.
Palestine, the twice promised land.

[martin14]

BRAH BRAH:

Rockets were fired at Israel's airport and now all US flights are grounded, trying to kill more innocent civilians nice going Hamas.

You're giving way too much credit to the targeting ability of Hamas.

A lucky shot at best.

[raydan]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

raydan raydan:

But that's like if I asked France to give me land since my ancestors lived there.

Maybe it would have been better if they had gotten land somewhere else, not surrounded by Arabs. The state of Nevada would have been nice.

No it's not like that. There have always been Jews in the Middle East, but they were always in a minority living amongst the Arabs and Muslims.

There have always been French people in France too... so I still want my land there.

[martin14]

Goober911 Goober911:

West Bank settlements

There were settlements in Gaza, they were taken down.


Oh and you should update yourself and your maps, Gaza has not been 'occupied' since 2006.

You can tell by the results over the last 8 years.

[BartSimpson]

desertdude desertdude:

Sure is, if they would have just let the Jews stay in Europe where they actual are from, none of this would be happening

Plenty of them did stay in Europe.



The survivors decided that it was time to depart the good graces of the Europeans and over the resistance of the British military they decamped for Israel anyway.

[desertdude]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

No it's not like that. There have always been Jews in the Middle East, but they were always in a minority living amongst the Arabs and Muslims.

Yes that is true, jews and muslims have lived in peace for centuries over there in fact as mentioned earlier it was the Mulsims who let back into Palestine the Jews who had been banned by the Bazaytines from entering.

They also lived in the European part of the Muslim caliphate, like the Cordoba caliphate of Spain and even today that period is known as the Golden Age of Jewish culture in Spain and when the Muslims left, so did the jews, because they felt unsecure without the Muslims protecting them. A little bit of history you won't hear from many people today.

And we all know how well the Jews were treated in Europe after that.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

desertdude desertdude:

Not the current breed of European Jews who make up the majority there now. And since when did the Torah become a legal land deed recognized by the international community ?

The people who always comment on "Palestinian land" always being Palestinian land just hate when you point out that the Jewish folk had been there longer.

That's my last comment on this thread, you folks have a good time arguing over who is good and who is bad.

Well I can at least thank you for being civil in this conversation.