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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:37 am
$1: Russian Spetsnaz arrested in Ukraine
The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) confirmed March 16 the arrest of a group of Russians in the Zaporizhzhia (Zaporozhye) region of Ukraine. The men were armed with firearms, explosives and unspecified 'special technical means'.
This follows the March 14 arrest near Kherson, Ukraine of several Russians dressed black uniforms with no insignia, armed with AKS-74 assault rifles and in possession of numerous ID cards under various names. One of which was an ID card of Military Intelligence Directorate of the Russian armed forces; commonly known as 'Spetsnaz'.
http://www.examiner.com/article/russian ... ed-ukraine$1: Former Top Putin Advisor Sounds The Alarm: Putin Has Already Declared War On Kiev
Andrei Illarionov, formerly Vladimir Putin’s top economic advisor (and personal envoy to the G8) , has warned in an interview with Ukrainian television that Putin has already declared war on Kiev. Putin’s war is being conducted by Russian Spetsnaz (special operations) forces and KGB (now called FSB) agents and is aimed at toppling the pro-Western government in Kiev. The Spetsnaz forces’ orders include the sowing of civil unrest throughout Ukraine via strikes, demonstrations, staged incidents, and street battles. Putin’s subversive forces will also gin up neo-Nazi incidents with Nazi regalia and Swastikas on full display. Their orders include as well the deliberate killing of Russian soldiers and of ethnic Russian civilians to prove the hatred and extremism of radical Ukrainian nationalists. These orders come from Putin himself. Their goal is to create an image of intolerable chaos and loss of civil authority to justify a Russian takeover of all Ukraine. Putin’s goal is the destruction of pro-Western authority in Ukraine, the total humiliation of the West, and a makeover of the geopolitical balance.
Illiaronov’s urgent advice to Ukraine: Place all your effort into preserving civil order and avoid falling for the Spetsnaz provocations. (This will be difficult as Spetsnaz-organized gangs are already storming public buildings in East Ukraine). Ukrainian authorities must immediately close all borders with Russia to slow the infiltration of Spetsnaz and FSB destabilization units. Ukrainian TV and radio must immediately broadcast all their news in Russian or in English because many Ukrainian citizens and Russians do not understand Ukrainian.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderic ... r-on-kiev/
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:39 am
Thanos Thanos: Zipperfish Zipperfish: Wonder what side teh Republicans are on? Not so patriotic now. They like Putin. Came in first for the preferred GOP leader at the CPAC2014 straw poll. Perennial favourite Bull Connor was a distant second.  Bull Connor was a lifelong DEMOCRAT.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:46 am
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:59 am
Whatever. Enough about the America-Palin-Republican bashing. This topic is about Ukraine.
Back on topic please and post the other bile somewhere else. Thank you.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:03 am
Really? Then I can trust you and the other conservative stalwarts to leave your patented Obama-hate out of this discussion as well? Nope? Ah, well, let's have some fun then. I'm in full brat-mode today anyway.  "I looked into his (Putin's) eyes and saw his soul" - George W. Bush, the guy who lost us South Ossetia! 
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:04 am
The French should do this immediately. Hey! Maybe we could get a deal on one! http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140318/188536 ... risis.html$1: Paris will consider canceling a 1.2-billion-euro deal to deliver two Mistral-class warships to the Russian navy if Moscow provokes further escalation in Ukraine, the French foreign minister has said.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:07 am
So taking over Crimea was not enough provocation?
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:08 am
saturn_656 saturn_656: The French should do this immediately. Hey! Maybe we could get a deal on one! http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140318/188536 ... risis.html$1: Paris will consider canceling a 1.2-billion-euro deal to deliver two Mistral-class warships to the Russian navy if Moscow provokes further escalation in Ukraine, the French foreign minister has said. Warren Kinsella suggested last week that all Russian assets in the West should be frozen and that Russia should be immediately kicked out of the G8 and G20. Sounds like a sensible escalation to me but it's doubtful that either the US or the Euros are ready to go that far right now, if ever.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:12 am
It's a good thing that this is the end of winter in the Northern Hemisphere and not the beginning because that Russian natural gas is their main (useable) weapon against the West, right now. Demand should be going down.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:16 am
andyt andyt: So taking over Crimea was not enough provocation? Unfortunately it seems not. Hope the French think twice about exporting a couple of top shelf power projection vessels to an increasingly expansionist and belligerent Russia.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:29 am
saturn_656 saturn_656: andyt andyt: So taking over Crimea was not enough provocation? Unfortunately it seems not. Hope the French think twice about exporting a couple of top shelf power projection vessels to an increasingly expansionist and belligerent Russia. The Ukrainians need nukes.. now. If they only lose Ukraine over this they can consider themselves lucky.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:52 am
martin14 martin14:
The Ukrainians need nukes.. now.
If they only lose Ukraine over this they can consider themselves lucky.
We refused from nuke weapons and US, China, Russia etc. were promising to guard us. China is watching, US speaks more than do, EU is shouting in hysteria. Everyone waits.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:53 am
Aw,forgot to say, Harper is visiting Ukraine, he is going to give us few dollars.
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:56 am
PostFactum PostFactum: Aw,forgot to say, Harper is visiting Ukraine, he is going to give us few dollars. Take them! He doesn't open his our wallet very often.
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