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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:56 pm
 


The suggestion has been made that if these jets are just flying around to keep the crews sharp, are being used much less these days, maybe the govt should sell a couple of them.

As for Natynczyk, he now seems to have backed down a bit and agreed to possibly pay for flights for private business. Guess Stevo took him out behind the woodshed.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:48 am
 


Who said they are being used less "these" days? Also keeping crews "sharp" is an odd way to describe proficiency ratings and training.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:15 am
 


Regina Regina:
Who said they are being used less "these" days? Also keeping crews "sharp" is an odd way to describe proficiency ratings and training.


They're being used less because ministers are flying commercial more often, as per directive of Stevo. And if they sold a couple the others would be flying on real missions more often, giving the remaining crews all the training and proficiency ratings they can handle. Can you imagine a commercial airline flying dead flights just to train and evaluate their crews? They'd be out of business in no time.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:39 am
 


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Who said they are being used less "these" days? Also keeping crews "sharp" is an odd way to describe proficiency ratings and training.


They're being used less because ministers are flying commercial more often, as per directive of Stevo. And if they sold a couple the others would be flying on real missions more often, giving the remaining crews all the training and proficiency ratings they can handle. Can you imagine a commercial airline flying dead flights just to train and evaluate their crews? They'd be out of business in no time.

You have no clue what you're talking about and YES commercial airlines have to run dead flights all the time to train their crews and reposition aircraft daily across the country.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:46 am
 


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Natynczyk argued that the Challenger jets aren't being flown enough. The government has six and their use has often been controversial. The most recent two were acquired for $101 million by the Chretien government in 2002 in a purchase that was later described by then auditor-general Sheila Fraser as unjustified and unnecessary.

Politicians have been using executive jets a lot less often since the Conservatives came to power. Harper says he flies the Challengers at the insistence of the RCMP for security reasons, but he has decreed that his ministers must take commercial flights when they can.

So Natynczyk says the Challengers are often being flown empty on training flights that are needed for to maintain the certification of the aircraft and pilots.

That being the case, he argues he is only making use of flights that would have taken place anyway, but without a meaningful destination. After all, the added costs of actually using the jets, after deducting the fixed costs of ownership, is reported to be only about $2,600 an hour, a pittance compared to the $2.4 million an hour we spend on the armed forces that Natynczyk leads.

Yet here's my question. Why are we looking for make-work projects for such expensive aircraft? Three are equipped for medical flights. Why don't we sell them if there isn't enough cost-effective work?

Failing that, maybe we could have a lottery for ordinary soldiers so at least a few of them could fly home for holidays. They have families too.




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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:54 am
 


The reporter who also has no clue asks why we fly such an expensive aircraft. :roll:


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The reporter who also has no clue asks why we fly such an expensive aircraft. :roll:


Nice twist on what the reporter actually said. The general said the planes weren't being flown enough. Sheila Fraser said the purchase of the last 2 was a waste. So it's a very reasonable question to ask why we're keeping so many.

If this was a minister or deputy minister doing this, y'all wouldn't be nearly as defensive about this.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:12 pm
 


There's no twist, it's an accurate assessment of his and the other comments. Nor do I feel a need to defend this situation to anyone who can't understand. You and the reporter obviously have no clue what training is required to be an Airline Transport Pilot and it's ratings.


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Regina Regina:
The reporter who also has no clue asks why we fly such an expensive aircraft. :roll:


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I think you might be wasting your time here... again.


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I think you might be wasting your time here... again.

I know, it's like a car accident.........I just had to stop. :oops:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:40 am
 


Flying on government VIP aircrafts for sporting events and fundraising dinners !!


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Flying on government VIP aircrafts for sporting events and fundraising dinners !!


15 mon old necro. A step up, I suppose.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:48 am
 


Plus higher insurance for flying expensive aircrafts


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