[andyt]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Speaking of whining fucking hacks... what a shock you'd whore yourself out to the first hyper partisan to show up, cheer leading like a bitch.

Don't think, by the way, it makes you post like a retard. Stick with cut and paste - cut and paste is your friend.

Actually I think he's making too much of it. But you seem to post stuff you don't even believe yourself just to get at somebody. You really think it's tin foiler material to think the countries he mentioned are spying on us?

The MP should be moved out of any sensitive position (like foreign affairs). Flirting with somebody who works for the Chinese govt should be enough of a warning bell that he's thinking with his dick.

[Macguyver]

Gunnair Gunnair:

That's the topic. I've said repeatedly that this should be allowed to play out more before everyone loses their collective shit. It seems that that is somehow illogical and partisan while jumping to massive conclusions, baying for blood, and lamenting the loss of the Canadian industrial complex to the Chinese through these emails is somehow the sane response.

No. No it's not.

And that is your opinion and it is all great. But is seems to me that your experience with this matter is limited.

In my experience this sort of thing happens for a reason. The matter will become classified, the reporter from China will be "re-assigned" and no one in the Privy Council or CSIS will say "boo" about it. And guess what, that is the way it should be. Hopefully the idiot in question will be demoted and re-assigned to something where security is not important.

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

[fifeboy]

I won't claim to be non-political here as my position on Steve's government is well known. But three points:
1- The stupid flirty e-mails were probably just the beginning and when he got down to serious business with her the blackmail would then start. It's a good thing it came out when it did and is only an embarrassment.
2- It shows that what is needed for any government to F#@k up is time in office, not ideology.
3- If everyone in Canada wasn't so hung up on what people did in the bedroom than stuff like this couldn't be used as a way for foreign governments to gather intelligence. If the answer to "I know what you got up to with him/her" resulted in a collective "who cares!" we would all be better off.

[andyt]

Macguyver Macguyver:

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

He used her contact list, more than likely.

[andyt]

fifeboy fifeboy:

I won't claim to be non-political here as my position on Steve's government is well known. But three points:
1- The stupid flirty e-mails were probably just the beginning and when he got down to serious business with her the blackmail would then start. It's a good thing it came out when it did and is only an embarrassment.
2- It shows that what is needed for any government to F#@k up is time in office, not ideology.
3- If everyone in Canada wasn't so hung up on what people did in the bedroom than stuff like this couldn't be used as a way for foreign governments to gather intelligence. If the answer to "I know what you got up to with him/her" resulted in a collective "who cares!" we would all be better off.

The thing is it's not always black mail. Sometimes it's just the guy (women too I guess) trying to be the big shot and blabbing about stuff. Otherwise I agree with what you wrote. It's not the end of the world, but it's not nothing either.

[Brenda]

Macguyver Macguyver:

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

Have you ever had an email account? I doubt it, because if you did, you would know that you can store email addresses on there.
Also, she might have had an Excel sheet with email addresses.
Once dear hubby thinks he has a reason to need it one day, and he hacks into her computer, all is up for grabs.
He wasn't in her computer with her permission, remember?

[Macguyver]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Please... play the forum cop when you get mod status.

Just hoping you could be a little more respectful. I may dislike your point of view but its very doubtful that you will ever catch me calling anyone names on here except maybe in jest.

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I won't claim to be non-political here as my position on Steve's government is well known. But three points:
1- The stupid flirty e-mails were probably just the beginning and when he got down to serious business with her the blackmail would then start. It's a good thing it came out when it did and is only an embarrassment.
2- It shows that what is needed for any government to F#@k up is time in office, not ideology.
3- If everyone in Canada wasn't so hung up on what people did in the bedroom than stuff like this couldn't be used as a way for foreign governments to gather intelligence. If the answer to "I know what you got up to with him/her" resulted in a collective "who cares!" we would all be better off.

The thing is it's not always black mail. Sometimes it's just the guy (women too I guess) trying to be the big shot and blabbing about stuff. Otherwise I agree with what you wrote. It's not the end of the world, but it's not nothing either.

It's not like she told her hubby. He hacked into her computer.
I find it funny that apparently, everybody thinks that lack of respect for (professional as well as personal) privacy is fine?

[Macguyver]

Brenda Brenda:

Macguyver Macguyver:

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

Have you ever had an email account? I doubt it, because if you did, you would know that you can store email addresses on there.
Also, she might have had an Excel sheet with email addresses.
Once dear hubby thinks he has a reason to need it one day, and he hacks into her computer, all is up for grabs.
He wasn't in her computer with her permission, remember?

That seems likely, just as likely as someone has those emails and asks the MP to cough up some information or those emails go public.

I agree you might be right. But can you agree that I might be right too?

If you are right no harm no foul. If I'm right we have some serious peoblems in Ottawa with this guy. Are you willing to take that risk?

[Brenda]

Macguyver Macguyver:

Brenda Brenda:

Macguyver Macguyver:

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

Have you ever had an email account? I doubt it, because if you did, you would know that you can store email addresses on there.
Also, she might have had an Excel sheet with email addresses.
Once dear hubby thinks he has a reason to need it one day, and he hacks into her computer, all is up for grabs.
He wasn't in her computer with her permission, remember?

That seems likely, just as likely as someone has those emails and asks the MP to cough up some information or those emails go public.

I agree you might be right. But can you agree that I might be right too?

If you are right no harm no foul. If I'm right we have some serious peoblems in Ottawa with this guy. Are you willing to take that risk?

You assume he will let himself be blackmailed.
The funny thing is that the HUSBAND made them public. Wouldn't you be more interested in that guy?

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

andyt andyt:

The thing is it's not always black mail. Sometimes it's just the guy (women too I guess) trying to be the big shot and blabbing about stuff. Otherwise I agree with what you wrote. It's not the end of the world, but it's not nothing either.

It's not like she told her hubby. He hacked into her computer.
I find it funny that apparently, everybody thinks that lack of respect for (professional as well as personal) privacy is fine?

You're going to hate me for this, but sounds like another ESL problem here. It's not her telling hubby. It's the MP telling her secrets, trying to impress her. That's how the Gerda Munsinger affair went down (if indeed she was a spy) Begrijpen?

Nobody thinks what hubby did is fine. Fortuitous for Canada tho. Before, as Fifeboy pointed out, it possibly went too far. Maybe an argument against her being a spy - surely hubby would know if she was spreading her legs for the greater glory of China.

[Macguyver]

Brenda Brenda:

You assume he will let himself be blackmailed.
The funny thing is that the HUSBAND made them public. Wouldn't you be more interested in that guy?

Well if you're version of the story is correct then there probably is a scorned husband.

I'm guessing that if my version of events are correct there is no husband, and that it is a simple blackmail technique and the emails were sent by someone on their side of the fence, probably no husband exists.

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

Brenda Brenda:

andyt andyt:

The thing is it's not always black mail. Sometimes it's just the guy (women too I guess) trying to be the big shot and blabbing about stuff. Otherwise I agree with what you wrote. It's not the end of the world, but it's not nothing either.

It's not like she told her hubby. He hacked into her computer.
I find it funny that apparently, everybody thinks that lack of respect for (professional as well as personal) privacy is fine?

You're going to hate me for this, but sounds like another ESL problem here. It's not her telling hubby. It's the MP telling her secrets, trying to impress her. That's how the Gerda Munsinger affair went down (if indeed she was a spy) Begrijpen?

Do you have proof of that, that he told her secrets?

(I must say I misread. Which has nothing to do with ESL, but more with reading too fast. I read that you meant the husband might be blabbing)

$1:

Nobody thinks what hubby did is fine. Fortuitous for Canada tho. Before, as Fifeboy pointed out, it possibly went too far. Maybe an argument against her being a spy - surely hubby would know if she was spreading her legs for the greater glory of China.

I'm sure, if that were the case, he would have known.

[Gunnair]

Macguyver Macguyver:

Gunnair Gunnair:

That's the topic. I've said repeatedly that this should be allowed to play out more before everyone loses their collective shit. It seems that that is somehow illogical and partisan while jumping to massive conclusions, baying for blood, and lamenting the loss of the Canadian industrial complex to the Chinese through these emails is somehow the sane response.

No. No it's not.

And that is your opinion and it is all great. But is seems to me that your experience with this matter is limited.

In my experience this sort of thing happens for a reason. The matter will become classified, the reporter from China will be "re-assigned" and no one in the Privy Council or CSIS will say "boo" about it. And guess what, that is the way it should be. Hopefully the idiot in question will be demoted and re-assigned to something where security is not important.

If this is just a domestic dispute, then how does the husband get the email addresses of 240 Canadian politicians, news people, business contacts and so forth? Who keeps that sort of thing handy "just in case" you need to spite your wife and her "interest"?

Please, if you're going to cite yourself as a resource of experience, then by all means, start listing your credentials.

I hope it's more than "I talked to my husband about it"...

[Macguyver]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Please, if you're going to cite yourself as a resource of experience, then by all means, start listing your credentials.

I hope it's more than "I talked to my husband about it"...

Sorry that is classified
Seriously though it's classified.