[GreenTiger]

weaselways weaselways:

The Cdn Senate as it is today is appointed, rarely introduces legislation of importance and has regional representation
24 in total from Nova Scotia, New Brunswick & PEI
24 from each of Quebec & Ontario
24 in total from the west Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta & BC
6 from Newfoundland
1 each from Nunavut, NorthWest Terr & Yukon
Another 4 to 8 in total can be appointed from any region in Canada at the Prime Ministers discretion
A Triple E Senate is viewed by some as a panacea to overcome some of what is considered a "Representative Democratic Deficit"
Elected - There is not a approved method of election as of yet. Some provinces elect from a slate of names and the Premier makes the choice of the province known to the PM. It is not incumbent on the PM to appoint the candidate.
Effective - The abilty to introduce important and effective legislation & also have the ability to effectively reject legislation (which is not the case today)
Equal- There is a Bill from 2006 never acted on increasing regional representation fom 4 to 5 Regions thus increasing western representation
West Manitoba=7 Saskatchewan=7 Alberta=10 & BC=12 or possbly 24 for a total of 48 max
All this would have to be done thru Constitutional Amendment, for the amendment to pass it would approval by 7 of 10 provinces with a population of 50% of Canada. This effectively gives Ontario approx 40% & Quebec approx 24% of the population a veto if they're on the same side vs the other 8.
Hope this clarifies it a bit for you, I'm sure others will more than pleased to add their two cents.

Thank you, I really didn't think it meant Eradicate, Eliminate, End.

[herbie]

ELECTED: each Senator is elected to their position.
EQUAL: Either every province gets the same number of Senators or the country is divided into Regions that are equal and the Provinces within the regions sort it out.
EFFECTIVE: the Senate gets the ability to initiate Bills.

IMPOSSIBLE
Even though Ontario and Quebec would be Regions, Quebec wouldn't be satisfied.
I'd propose
NS, N&L, PEI, NB = Atlantic Region
Quebec = Quebec Region
Niagara Peninsula = Ontario Region
N Ontario, Man, Sask = Middle Region
BA & Alta - Western Region
21 Senators each
1 from each Territory
1 elected to represent all Natives on reserves
109 Senators.

[fifeboy]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

Thank you, I really didn't think it meant Eradicate, Eliminate, End.

No, but it should.

[martin14]

fifeboy fifeboy:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

Thank you, I really didn't think it meant Eradicate, Eliminate, End.

No, but it should.

Since that would also require a Constitutional agreement, it won't happen either.

Never seen a government willingly vote to reduce its' own power.

[stokes]

herbie herbie:

IMPOSSIBLE
Even though Ontario and Quebec would be Regions, Quebec wouldn't be satisfied.
I'd propose
NS, N&L, PEI, NB = Atlantic Region
Quebec = Quebec Region
Niagara Peninsula = Ontario Region
N Ontario, Man, Sask = Middle Region
BA & Alta - Western Region
21 Senators each
1 from each Territory
1 elected to represent all Natives on reserves
109 Senators.

Best idea I have heard in a long time, too bad it is impossible as you stated, another idea would be to have each of these regions to have their elections in a different year

[fifeboy]

martin14 martin14:

fifeboy fifeboy:

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

Thank you, I really didn't think it meant Eradicate, Eliminate, End.

No, but it should.

Since that would also require a Constitutional agreement, it won't happen either.

Never seen a government willingly vote to reduce its' own power.

Good point. But then again, democracy hasn't been having too good of a time anywhere.