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btw, you guys dont actually think that other organizations dont cross borders to support each other? unions? doctors associations? governments? munipal program directors? colleges and universities?

in my opinion, the OP is a lame attempt to twist the obvious into something that will cause a knee jerk reaction from any canadian that is insecure about americans

Boy, ppl really love throwing around the ol' prejudism card around these days. It's almost become a global sport.
That's quite a leap to make that because someone doesn't want a particular American organization stirring shit up in Canada they are insecure about Americans

"Hey John, what do you think about the NRA being in Canada?"

"I think they should just stay in the US. They are an American lobby group, they don't need to be in Canada!"

"You don't like Americans do you John."

"Hey John, do you know anything about the NRA?"

"Nope, just that they are american"

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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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btw, you guys dont actually think that other organizations dont cross borders to support each other? unions? doctors associations? governments? munipal program directors? colleges and universities?

in my opinion, the OP is a lame attempt to twist the obvious into something that will cause a knee jerk reaction from any canadian that is insecure about americans

Boy, ppl really love throwing around the ol' prejudism card around these days. It's almost become a global sport.
That's quite a leap to make that because someone doesn't want a particular American organization stirring shit up in Canada they are insecure about Americans

"Hey John, what do you think about the NRA being in Canada?"

"I think they should just stay in the US. They are an American lobby group, they don't need to be in Canada!"

"You don't like Americans do you John."

"Hey John, do you know anything about the NRA?"

"Nope, just that they are american"

And thusly have no reason to be lobbying in Canada. Don't need some foreign lobby group coming up here to tout their "superior American values" to us oh so un-enlightened Canadians

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Go tell that to the Chinese as well.


Oh wait, at least they come with cash for bribes.

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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Boy, ppl really love throwing around the ol' prejudism card around these days. It's almost become a global sport.
That's quite a leap to make that because someone doesn't want a particular American organization stirring shit up in Canada they are insecure about Americans

"Hey John, what do you think about the NRA being in Canada?"

"I think they should just stay in the US. They are an American lobby group, they don't need to be in Canada!"

"You don't like Americans do you John."

"Hey John, do you know anything about the NRA?"

"Nope, just that they are american"

And thusly have no reason to be lobbying in Canada. Don't need some foreign lobby group coming up here to tout their "superior American values" to us oh so un-enlightened Canadians

sounds a bit racist/anti-american/bigoted( or whatever you prefer to call it) to me. you are disqualifying their values simply because of where they are from. surely, Canada would be at a loss if we refused amercian diabetes association support, or united steel workers of america support, or Americaon medical association support.

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sounds a bit racist/anti-american/bigoted( or whatever you prefer to call it) to me. you are disqualifying their values simply because of where they are from. surely, Canada would be at a loss if we refused amercian diabetes association support, or united steel workers of america support, or Americaon medical association support.

That depends on the help. Help with a political agenda isn't help. We wouldn't accept help from the AMA if all they were doing is trying to exert political influence to get our health care to be more like theirs and vice-versa.

Same with the NRA. They can chat with fellow gun enthusiast all the want no different then fishing and hunting groups. Its another animal when you are trying to change the political landscape.

Imagine if you found out some anti-gun lobbyists in the US were throwing political support for the registry and/or gun bans in Canada? I'm pretty sure you'd tell them to crawl back into their own yard and shut their pie hole and you'd be well justified.

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Cross-border political influence is not going to stop of its own accord, not can it be stopped. I just wish it was out in the open so people could see it for the meddlign that it is. If our government endorses one of their presidential candidates, that's an open act. The NRA providing behind-the-scenes support for the anti-registry crowd is not. That's the difference.

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If it was truly cross border 'political influence', then I would agree with you that this is very different than technical support that we might recieve from american diabetes association.

However, what was the support? I was of the understanding that it was logistical and technical in nature, and it was being provided to a like minded Canadian association.

If so, I am sceptical about the idea that this is a clear cut case of political influence. Heck, I'd bet the america government has dirtier hands than the NRA when it comes to political influence.

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chicken or the egg, which came first?

did the canadian anti-registry crowd exist before the NRA support? would they still exist without support? are you saying Canadians associated to the anti-gun registry havent formed their own opinions?

'political influence' is a stretch

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chicken or the egg, which came first?

did the canadian anti-registry crowd exist before the NRA support? would they still exist without support? are you saying Canadians associated to the anti-gun registry havent formed their own opinions?

'political influence' is a stretch

Doesn't matter. Canadian pro/con registry has no connection to the NRA politically regardless of who came first. The NRA has no business getting involved in a Canadian affair. We'll decide as a country what is right for our country without the Americans help thank you very much.

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Who says that this is canceling our ability to decide what is right for our country?

They helped an organization better themselves, no big deal.

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btw, you can bet that the gun control crowd organized by wendy cuckier has recieved foriegn assistance and advice from time to time, too. are you against fair play?

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btw, you can bet that the gun control crowd organized by wendy cuckier has recieved foriegn assistance and advice from time to time, too. are you against fair play?

Can you provide evidence or is that a hunch?

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Who says that this is canceling our ability to decide what is right for our country?

They helped an organization better themselves, no big deal.

Big deal. The US has a looooong and sordid history of interfering politically in other nations in order to foster their own goals.

Who knows. This might backfire badly on your side. A lot of Canadians might be very angry that the US is meddling and decide a registry is a very good way to spote them. Look what happened when the US f*cked up in Iran.

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btw, you can bet that the gun control crowd organized by wendy cuckier has recieved foriegn assistance and advice from time to time, too. are you against fair play?

Can you provide evidence or is that a hunch?

or you trying to argue just for the sake of arguing? is it really neccessary for evidence on this one point?

its the way of the world, I would not run an organization without seeking technical advice and logical support from like minded organizations. If I worked with WEndy, I would contact groups in the UN, UK, and USA. I would recieve 'political influence' from all of them.

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Who says that this is canceling our ability to decide what is right for our country?

They helped an organization better themselves, no big deal.

Big deal. The US has a looooong and sordid history of interfering politically in other nations in order to foster their own goals.

Who knows. This might backfire badly on your side. A lot of Canadians might be very angry that the US is meddling and decide a registry is a very good way to spote them. Look what happened when the US f*cked up in Iran.

yes, I agree that canadians that have not invested any time into the registry debate might side on the 'those damn yanks' side of the debate. I doubt that either one of us respects that kind of decision making.