[Yogi]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Thanos Thanos:

Don't we have, like, a navy or a bunch of motor boats of some sort to stop them and make them turn around? I'm fairly annoyed at Arizona for the ham-fisted way that they're trying to enforce their border with Mexico (mainly because there's no way in hell that Latino-American citizens aren't going to be stopped and harassed by the police just because they 'look the type') but at least the Yanks are trying to do something about an intolerable immigration problem. What's our excuse for not doing anything to stop this seaborne invasion of illegals that are ridden with one of the most dangerous terrorist organizations the world's ever seen?

Canada: greatest country in the world, but also the biggest collection of suckers in the world.

Under international law, we have to accept them and process their 'refugee' applications. It'll take a helluva lot of intel to prove that Tamil Tigers are actually on board (they still haven't found proof that the 20-25 suspected Tigers of 76 onboard a ship last fall are actually Tigers).

Only, if the ship is allowed to enter Canadian waters. This did of course happen because our pols are a bunch of spineless vote seeking bastards!
Just as easily, and for a hell of a lot less cost, Canada could have met them in international waters, re-supplied them, seen to their health needs, and then sent them 'on their way'!

[Tman1]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Under international law, we have to accept them and process their 'refugee' applications. It'll take a helluva lot of intel to prove that Tamil Tigers are actually on board (they still haven't found proof that the 20-25 suspected Tigers of 76 onboard a ship last fall are actually Tigers).

Australia is also a signatory of supposed international law...they turned them around and waved bye bye and went on with life.

[herbie]

$1:

Quite simple really.

There are 300,000 Tamils in Canada alot of whom vote.

That almost all live in Toronto where Prime Minister HOOVER's party can't seem to win a seat.
SSSSSUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! SSSSHHHHHHLLLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP!!!

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Quite simple really.

There are 300,000 Tamils in Canada alot of whom vote.

That almost all live in Toronto where Prime Minister HOOVER's party can't seem to win a seat.
SSSSSUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! SSSSHHHHHHLLLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP!!!

You do have a point. supposed Tamil Refugees aside, Toronto must be full of people who love illegal refugees comming to Canada and using up Taxpayers money to the tune of approximately $100,000 per illegal. Much like Olivia and Iggy, to whom quite obviously, money is no object.

$1:

Both NDP immigration critic Olivia Chow and Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said the migrants have a legal right to be assessed as refugees.


"Every refugee claimant should be treated the same way, under Canadian law," Chow said. "They have a right, and we have a right to examine them individually, and that's what we should do. Whether they arrive by boat, or by plane, they should have the same rights under the refugees law."


Ignatieff said the migrants "have a right to have individual refugee determination."

[martin14]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Quite simple really.

There are 300,000 Tamils in Canada alot of whom vote.

That almost all live in Toronto where Prime Minister HOOVER's party can't seem to win a seat.
SSSSSUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! SSSSHHHHHHLLLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP!!!

While you may have a point Herb, please show me where the Libs
have done anything different.

They have been even worse.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Well the North West passage is ice free and Iqaluit could use some fresh blood. Dock long enough to refuel and take on some provisions, armed escorts and pilots. Welcome to Canada Saranjit, winter starts in a week and if a large snow drift blinks at you....well it may only play with you if it's not hungry.

This idea....is friggin' brilliant

How ya like Canada now biatch???

[herbie]

martin14 martin14:

herbie herbie:

$1:

Quite simple really.

There are 300,000 Tamils in Canada alot of whom vote.

That almost all live in Toronto where Prime Minister HOOVER's party can't seem to win a seat.
SSSSSUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! SSSSHHHHHHLLLUUUUUURRRRRPPPP!!!

While you may have a point Herb, please show me where the Libs
have done anything different.

They have been even worse.

I call your bullshit.
They scraped them off the rocks AFTER they got here on their own. Never went out and fetched them.
They even held fucking umbrellas up for them in case a stray raindrop hurt their little heads.
This gov't has just made fools of every Canadian, including those who voted for them and you come up with oooohhh the Liberals would be worse? What's that even got to do with it?

[bootlegga]

Tman1 Tman1:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Under international law, we have to accept them and process their 'refugee' applications. It'll take a helluva lot of intel to prove that Tamil Tigers are actually on board (they still haven't found proof that the 20-25 suspected Tigers of 76 onboard a ship last fall are actually Tigers).

Australia is also a signatory of supposed international law...they turned them around and waved bye bye and went on with life.

No, they didn't. They told the ship to head to a refugee detention centre on Christmas Island and the ship's crew decided to head to Canada instead.

The easy solution here (already mentioned) is to build our own refugee detention centre somewhere in the Arctic (and not in nice, comfortable Victoria) and that should deter plenty of refugee boats from coming to Canada (knowing they might spend up to four years in the Arctic). I don't see it being anymore difficult in maintaining something like that, given that we already support CFB Alert and CFB Resolute in the far North.

[bootlegga]

Yogi Yogi:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Thanos Thanos:

Don't we have, like, a navy or a bunch of motor boats of some sort to stop them and make them turn around? I'm fairly annoyed at Arizona for the ham-fisted way that they're trying to enforce their border with Mexico (mainly because there's no way in hell that Latino-American citizens aren't going to be stopped and harassed by the police just because they 'look the type') but at least the Yanks are trying to do something about an intolerable immigration problem. What's our excuse for not doing anything to stop this seaborne invasion of illegals that are ridden with one of the most dangerous terrorist organizations the world's ever seen?

Canada: greatest country in the world, but also the biggest collection of suckers in the world.

Under international law, we have to accept them and process their 'refugee' applications. It'll take a helluva lot of intel to prove that Tamil Tigers are actually on board (they still haven't found proof that the 20-25 suspected Tigers of 76 onboard a ship last fall are actually Tigers).

Only, if the ship is allowed to enter Canadian waters. This did of course happen because our pols are a bunch of spineless vote seeking bastards!
Just as easily, and for a hell of a lot less cost, Canada could have met them in international waters, re-supplied them, seen to their health needs, and then sent them 'on their way'!

You need to read up on international law. Canada (along with many other countries) is not allowed to turn away ships carrying refugees.

$1:

Migration experts say sending the ship away would have violated international law, and that's why Ottawa now appears to be seeking other channels to prevent further ships setting their sights here.

Still, those options are limited.

Even if blocking a ship's entry was permitted, there'd be other factors to consider, said Scott Watson, assistant professor of international relations at the University of Victoria.

"Let's say if they didn't have enough fuel, or if there was not enough food or water on board," he said. "At some point there is a moral or ethical responsibility to say we can't simply send them away."

Canada is obliged to not return people to their home country if they face persecution there under an agreement signed in the 1970s that's set out in the United Nations 1951 Refugee Convention and 1967 Protocol. The decision came in the aftermath of the Second World War, a result of the consequences faced by thousands of Jewish people who tried to flee Germany but were refused entry by other countries.

[andyt]

How did Australia do it then? Apparently this ship tried to land there first.

[Freakinoldguy]

Since we seem to be an especially easy target who let's over 50% of illegal refugees remain in country as compared to 15% for the rest of the civilized world.

Maybe it's time as a country we removed ourselves as a signator from the UN Convention relating to refugees circa 1967.

[bootlegga]

Australia told the crew to head to Christmas Island (where Australia's refugee detention centre is located) and the crew choose to head to Canada.

My guess is that despite its name, Christmas Island isn't all ho-ho-ho and happiness.

[Gunnair]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Since we seem to be an especially easy target who let's over 50% of illegal refugees remain in country as compared to 15% for the rest of the civilized world.

Maybe it's time as a country we removed ourselves as a signator from the UN Convention relating to refugees circa 1967.

Ain`t going to happen. Best idea so far is Shep`s - send them north. Even Prince Rupert or better yet, Stewart. I`m sure Stewart could use the jobs. Either way, waiting around up there even in the summer will not be a picnic. Winter on the other hand...

[rickc]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Easy, intercept the ship, tell them they are not welcome and turn them away.

Lemmy Lemmy:

Allow the ship to land, confiscate the ship and all its cargo as proceeds of crime and put the Tamils in jail. Set the precedent.

Best suggestions yet. I'm thinking intercept the ship, give them food and water and tow them back out where they can ride the Pacific Current back to Asia.

Don't allow them to set foot on Canadian Soil. Then they become our responsibility. I think this is similar to how the US does refugees from places like Cuba. If they can touch US soil, they are good to stay. If they are intercepted before then, they are out of luck.

Some of you left wing hypocrites might want to refresh yourselves on how you were shitting bricks when some poor "refugees" were heading to YOUR country. The hypocrisy is disgusting. Read through the thread. Several of you who are posting today in the Martha's Vineyard thread were calling for tuning a ship of refugees away on the high seas. You were shitting bricks over 200 people. I would say that a country that was engaged in a civil war would qualify for refugee status. You wanted to keep sending them on their way like the MS St. Louis. ACTUAL refugees adrift on the high seas are none of your concern when they want to come to Canada. "Send them on their way" you say. Yet every asshole too lazy to make their own country a better place to live is supposed to be able to invade MY country.

[DrCaleb]

Nothing like assuming people and their opinion can't change in 12 years.

Protip: The Tamil Tigers are considered a terrorist group in Canada.