[uwish]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

The Libs go down, then the Conservatives go down, back and forth. It's one of those circle of life things. I wouldn't count on either going away.

That's right.

The PC, Reform, Alliance, CPC party will never die!

at least the party is evolving and changing. I would argue that through all these versions, new and fresh ideas are brought to the table. I think that is healthy...

from that point the liberals...hum I guess I can not cross out anything since it is the same dead party it has always been since before Trudeau. How refreshing can a party be that hasn't changed much since it's inception? That is quite arrogant to assume the SAME OLD shit that party has at it's core is the SAME OLD SHIT their members believe.

Hence, the conservative shift in the country and that won't change anytime soon.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123:

But the simplest thing, in this instance, would be to give the CPC a majority.

I'll drink to that too! The sooner we get that majority, the better
off Canada will be.

[kenmore]

No majority for the PCs Québec will never let it happen..

[OnTheIce]

Meadowlark Meadowlark:

I also don't think it should be a publicly funded procedure because people who do not agree with abortion should not be forced to contribute to it.

I don't agree with "catholic" education, yet still pay for it.

I don't agree with various capital projects in Canada, but still pay for it.

I don't agree with pandering to Quebec to shut them up.

Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of cutting off our tax dollars to things we don't like or agree with.

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I don't agree with "catholic" education, yet still pay for it.

I don't pay for Catholic education. Why would you if you don't agree with it?

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I don't agree with "catholic" education, yet still pay for it.

I don't pay for Catholic education. Why would you if you don't agree with it?

We have public and catholic schools here, both funded by the taxpayer.

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

We have public and catholic schools here, both funded by the taxpayer.

You're in Ontario, same as me. Public education is funded through municipal taxes. On your tax bill, you select either "Public" or "Separate" education. So protestants fund the Public boards in Ontario and Catholics fund the Separate boards. You don't pay for both, dude, you pay for one or the other.

[Caelon]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

We have public and catholic schools here, both funded by the taxpayer.

You're in Ontario, same as me. Public education is funded through municipal taxes. On your tax bill, you select either "Public" or "Separate" education. So protestants fund the Public boards in Ontario and Catholics fund the Separate boards. You don't pay for both, dude, you pay for one or the other.

Unfortunately your municipal taxes do not cover 100% of the cost so the amount contributed by the province can be argued to come from all religous view points.

However this is thread drift as the subject is a opposition motion that was not fully supported by the party members. Surprise!! Any time you have a motion that covers a controversial topic like abortion you will have dissenting views within a party. There are pro abortion conservatives and anti abortion liberals.

I have never found a party that matches my views completely so any party I supoort is a compromise. It is probably true for the majority of Canadians in that at election time we will support the party that matches our views on the key issues of the day according to our interpretation. We will ignore the currently less important issues where we disagree with a party. So it is possible for Liberals to vote Conservative and vice versa. With the concentration of the population in Ontario and Quebec nationally we will elect the party the citizens of those provoinces feel they can support either partially or completely. So of course to be elected as the governing party you will have to appease those two provinces.

So the Conservatives cannot deface 'Ontario values' or they are out of a job. It is possible for a party based in Central Canada to abuse other areas and be elected. And that is the way it will be until the Canadian population becomes more balanced.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

We have public and catholic schools here, both funded by the taxpayer.

You're in Ontario, same as me. Public education is funded through municipal taxes. On your tax bill, you select either "Public" or "Separate" education. So protestants fund the Public boards in Ontario and Catholics fund the Separate boards. You don't pay for both, dude, you pay for one or the other.

Or Catholics like myself fund the public boards.

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

We have public and catholic schools here, both funded by the taxpayer.

You're in Ontario, same as me. Public education is funded through municipal taxes. On your tax bill, you select either "Public" or "Separate" education. So protestants fund the Public boards in Ontario and Catholics fund the Separate boards. You don't pay for both, dude, you pay for one or the other.

There simply isn't enough funding from those who select a certain school board to fund either operation in it's entirety. These boards get Provincial money all the time....and I'm sure they do get money from other levels of government as well.

Further, I've never, ever, seen an option on my tax bill on which system I'd prefer to pay into...probably cause the bank pays the bill for me. But what option do they select or does it default to 'public'?

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

There simply isn't enough funding from those who select a certain school board to fund either operation in it's entirety. These boards get Provincial money all the time....and I'm sure they do get money from other levels of government as well.

There's a province-wide funding formula that determines how provincial money gets doled out, but the vast majority comes from municipal funding. You said you were paying for Catholic schools...you're not. All your tax dollars are going to one Board. You can even imagine it as all your tax dollars going to your children's school.

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Further, I've never, ever, seen an option on my tax bill on which system I'd prefer to pay into...probably cause the bank pays the bill for me. But what option do they select or does it default to 'public'?

Do you own your property? If so, you must get a municipal tax bill. I don't know if there is a "default" selection. You better check your next bill. Maybe you were right; maybe you ARE paying for Catholic indoctrination education. But either way, you're only paying for one or the other, not both.

[uwish]

in Calgary, I get to choose where I want my portion to go, public or Catholic. I am pretty sure the vast majority of districts offer a choice.