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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:51 pm
 


I couldn't tell and I don't think you would have said anything similar about a picture taken at the scene of an IED attack in Afghanistan.
I happened to be at Ascension Island when those bodies came back plus I saw many of the horrific burns that the injured Royal Navy sailors had as they were being medevac'ed back.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:58 pm
 


I rooted for the Brits to take back the Falklands, but the sinking of the HMS Sheffield (and all the rest) were really nothing more than retaliation for the loss of the Belgrano. Had the Conqueror fired a warning shot or something, the war might not have been as bloody as it was. Hindsight is 20-20 and all that.

at the end of the day, war is horrible thing. Like the saying goes, it's soldiers who pray most for peace, for they suffer most when war comes.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:07 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
I rooted for the Brits to take back the Falklands, but the sinking of the HMS Sheffield (and all the rest) were really nothing more than retaliation for the loss of the Belgrano. Had the Conqueror fired a warning shot or something, the war might not have been as bloody as it was. Hindsight is 20-20 and all that.

at the end of the day, war is horrible thing. Like the saying goes, it's soldiers who pray most for peace, for they suffer most when war comes.


So it's just a 'cute' picture to you?

I'm not saying what was right or wrong that war.

What I am saying is a photo of a ship showing the explosion site where 20 young men died can never be described as 'cute', facetious or not.

Your comment was in very poor taste.


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
bootlegga bootlegga:
I rooted for the Brits to take back the Falklands, but the sinking of the HMS Sheffield (and all the rest) were really nothing more than retaliation for the loss of the Belgrano. Had the Conqueror fired a warning shot or something, the war might not have been as bloody as it was. Hindsight is 20-20 and all that.

at the end of the day, war is horrible thing. Like the saying goes, it's soldiers who pray most for peace, for they suffer most when war comes.


So it's just a 'cute' picture to you?


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bootlegga bootlegga:
I was being facetious...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:16 pm
 


Read above. Piss poor taste.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:31 pm
 


Whatever...that comment wasn't directed at you anyways. Stop being some damn touchy...did you suddenly become a weepy eyed Liberal?


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Nope. I told you. I was there when the dead and burnt came off this ship. Not being weepy. I'm touchy like anybody who's seen dead and burnt boys.

I've got no axe to grind on this but would you say this about a picture from Afghanistan where Canadians were killed in an IED explosion?

You still have a piss-poor attitude on this. An apology for an insensitive remark would be more appropriate and have some respect for our dead.


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Nope. I told you. I was there when the dead and burnt came off this ship. Not being weepy. I'm touchy like anybody who's seen dead and burnt boys.

I've got no axe to grind on this but would you say this about a picture from Afghanistan where Canadians were killed in an IED explosion?

You still have a piss-poor attitude on this. An apology for an insensitive remark would be more appropriate and have some respect for our dead.

I'm with you there brother! I was a little shocked to see that picture used as it was. The Belgrano was sailing into the war zone on an attack mission and that is why it was torpedoed. Period. The Argies were attacking British warships with aircraft because they were still trying to hang onto the Falklands. War isn't a question of tit-for-tat.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:07 pm
 


Thanks navy. A bit of sensitivity on these matters would not be amiss.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Nope. I told you. I was there when the dead and burnt came off this ship. Not being weepy. I'm touchy like anybody who's seen dead and burnt boys.


It's the smell you never get out of your memory.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Nope. I told you. I was there when the dead and burnt came off this ship. Not being weepy. I'm touchy like anybody who's seen dead and burnt boys.


It's the smell you never get out of your memory.



I didn't want to be that graphic but that smell will never leave me.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:26 pm
 


On the topic of the Falklands, the Argentines started a war to distract from the horrors they were inflicting on their own people back then. They really and truly expected to win, too. They didn't think the UK had the will to assert their rights 10,000km away from the Home Islands. The Argentines gambled and lost.

The needless tragedy of that war was Argentina thinking they could just invade the Falklands without opposition. The Argentines, as I recall, were also miffed when the UK bombed airfields and military targets in Argentina, despite Argentina saying that only the Falklands was a war zone. Too bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:36 pm
 


The Argie Air Force put up a bloody good fight and we were lucky that we didn't lose more ships.

We were lucky in many other ways, no AEW was pretty instrumental in losing so many ships. The AIM-9L's you guys supplied us gave our Harriers the fighting edge. There's a few other things we managed by the skin of our teeth too. It wasn't the push-over that many of us expected.


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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
The Argie Air Force put up a bloody good fight and we were lucky that we didn't lose more ships.

We were lucky in many other ways, no AEW was pretty instrumental in losing so many ships. The AIM-9L's you guys supplied us gave our Harriers the fighting edge. There's a few other things we managed by the skin of our teeth too. It wasn't the push-over that many of us expected.


My friend Dave, who drove F-16's once upon a time, told me of escorting KC-10's in the Atlantic to refuel UK aircraft making the run all the way from the UK to Argentina a few times. Doing a combat run half a planet away is still an impressive feat and one, I might add, that few USAF crews have ever matched.


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