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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:13 pm
 


I'm in agreement with singing the National Anthem in schools every day! I think it should be sung at all sports events as well. I have attended many events where people stood in silence or sat in silence or busied themselves doing other things. It pissed me off. I learned to sing it in both languages in school and I still sing it at public events. Some people look at you weird when you break into french, but hey I like it that way. People have expressed surprise when you tell them it was written by a frenchman..


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:15 pm
 


I like it better than the Dutch one! :lol:

I must add tho, that when I hear the Dutch OR Canadian Anthem played at some event (Olympics, worldcups, Remembrances) I am proud, and even tear up sometimes :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:19 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
What if you don't see the Anthem as "loving the country"?

I HATE the Dutch Anthem. Does that make me less Dutch? I don't think so...



Yea, but you are Dutch, you are well free to criticise Holland in Canada, you don't have to sing their anthem to fit in here.
But...you decided to move to Canada and if you want to be a Canadian, you should at least be able to sing our National Anthem and teach your kids to do the same. Otherwise maybe catch the next flight to Amsterdam.

Why wouldn't you embrace your adopted country's culture? Why even come here if you don't want to be a Canadian? Singing the anthem is part of the deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:22 pm
 


Why would singing an anthem everyday in school be considered culture? I don't go to school, I don't have to sing it every day.
If the school decided to sing it every day, my kids will have to. But I certainly will not, nor will I do it in Holland. My kids get the anthem taught in school, nothing I have to do about that. I like Gymnastics, not so much Hockey. Should I get the fuck back to Holland now?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:22 pm
 


Sure, if you think singing 'O Canada' is an issue. You have to learn the words and sing it at the citizenship ceremony.

Amsterdam calling?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:26 pm
 


I am not becoming Canadian. I lose my Dutch citizenship when I do, and I am not willing to do that as long as my parents are alive.

Can you imagine applying for a visa to go take care of my parents when one of them gets sick? Neither do I. So, that is not happening.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:29 pm
 


Why come here then? You just want to get what Canada can offer without ever even wanting to be a Canadian?



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EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Why come here then? You just want to get what Canada can offer without ever even wanting to be a Canadian?



Sad.

Did I say ever? I said "as long as my parents are alive".


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:37 pm
 


You don't want to be a Canadian. You don't think your kids should sing our National Anthem until your parents die. Hardly a solid commitment to Canada.

The day after my 3 years here as a 'landed immigrant' were up, I swore allegiance to Canada and became a citizen.

I have to say that I am less than impressed with people who move here but decide to keep their foreign citizenship.
You are no different than all those plastic "Canadians" in Lebanon who come here for their own selfish reasons.

They have a saying here. "Piss or get off the pot."


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:45 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
I like it better than the Dutch one! :lol:


I sure love the German one. Based on a string quartet by Haydn. My favorite - after ours of course.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:48 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
I am not becoming Canadian. I lose my Dutch citizenship when I do, and I am not willing to do that as long as my parents are alive.

Can you imagine applying for a visa to go take care of my parents when one of them gets sick? Neither do I. So, that is not happening.


Is that right? Does a Canadian need a visa to go to Holland?

I was born in the UK and have dual citizenship. Even as a Canadian I don't need a visa for the UK and I thought it was the same for all Western European nations.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:56 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
You don't want to be a Canadian. You don't think your kids should sing our National Anthem until your parents die. Hardly a solid commitment to Canada.

Where did I say that? They have to sing it in school whenever the school decides, and at any other official thing where it is played. Don't twist my words
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The day after my 3 years here as a 'landed immigrant' were up, I swore allegiance to Canada and became a citizen.

Congratulations. You didn't lose your citizenship. I don't know if I make the 3 years. Who knows? Maybe I move to Honduras in 7 weeks.
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I have to say that I am less than impressed with people who move here but decide to keep their foreign citizenship.
You are no different than all those plastic "Canadians" in Lebanon who come here for their own selfish reasons.

fuck off. I will never ask the canadian government to help me out.
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They have a saying here. "Piss or get off the pot."

Fine, buy me a couple of one way tickets to Amsterdam. Obviously, you do not welcome permanent residents.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:57 pm
 


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Brenda Brenda:
I am not becoming Canadian. I lose my Dutch citizenship when I do, and I am not willing to do that as long as my parents are alive.

Can you imagine applying for a visa to go take care of my parents when one of them gets sick? Neither do I. So, that is not happening.


Is that right? Does a Canadian need a visa to go to Holland?

I was born in the UK and have dual citizenship. Even as a Canadian I don't need a visa for the UK and I thought it was the same for all Western European nations.

To live? yes.
Holland doesn't allow dual citizenship.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:00 pm
 


No, I don't think people who don't commit to our country should be taken in the same way as those that do.

Brenda, your credibility has just dived.
Don't give us your heart-felt opinions if you can't even commit to our country. You are 'just visiting'.

Enjoy your stay.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:03 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
No, I don't think people who don't commit to our country should be taken in the same way as those that do.

Brenda, your credibility has just dived.
Don't give us your heart-felt opinions if you can't even commit to our country. You are 'just visiting'.

Enjoy your stay.


I have to agree - if one comes here, is it too much to ask one commit to some of the things that Canadians cherish? The National Anthem, for instance, is hardly a significant burden, so i have to question why one's motives for questioning it.


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