[saturn_656]

Scape Scape:

You mean like the Surete' Du Quebec? Ask Corporal Marcel Lemay how that went.

So we let the hooligans and criminals win because to enforce the laws means someone could get hurt?

You really think so?

[EyeBrock]

Force is not the answer but things cannot continue as they have for the past 30 years or so.

It's just unequitable treatment of a portion of our population that thinks it's above the law.

The Mohawks are immigrants just like the United Empire Loyalists were and they should be treated fairly, but they should also be held accountable for disobeying our laws.
Either that or they should get none of the priviledges of citizenship and no more of our money.

[OnTheIce]

Scape Scape:

You mean like the Surete' Du Quebec? Ask Corporal Marcel Lemay how that went.

Tanks solve more than cops with riot gear.

[Tman1]

First, this dispute is ridiculous, just like Oka. Amazing upon the stupidest things both the Canadian govt and aboriginals fight over. On one side, every border agent needs a weapon which doesn't sit well with people wanting white people having guns on their land. Understandable but these people are protecting the border which ironically includes them. On another hand, most of what the Mohawks say is they are being harassed by the border agents and having them have weapons would make it worse. Then again, some of it is more on thugish tactics on the 'Mohawk Warriors' who seem to present themselves as people with little regard for law and order and fall back on injustices on being Native. If anything, aboriginals can pretty much do anything without fear or backlash, example being Caledonia, because Canada is more concerned with what the human rights commission sees us as rather than flexing a little muscle. Canada also has lost its will and its way in dealing with domestic disputes and would rather pass them aside quickly and quietly.

Are there no Mohawks hired as border agents on the border? Seems to me most of the area is Mohawk land which extends into New York. Would the feel better with Mohawks having weapons or do they actually want equality with nobody having weapons?

[EyeBrock]

Using force will just make them unjustified martyrs.

[Tman1]

True dat.

[saturn_656]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Using force will just make them unjustified martyrs.

No force required, just march the border guards back in there with RCMP escort, and if the residents decide to interfere the fault is not with CBSA or the RCMP.

This cannot be permitted.

[OnTheIce]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Using force will just make them unjustified martyrs.

It may change the course of our future.

Sure, some will be martyrs, but sending a message that this type of behaviour isn't accepted in Canada anymore would be key.

[EyeBrock]

Nobody in government has the balls to stop these thugs. It will just carry on.

[saturn_656]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Nobody in government has the balls to stop these thugs. It will just carry on.

No arguement there.

[Tman1]

The U.S border guards are probably laughing at this.

[saturn_656]

Tman1 Tman1:

The U.S border guards are probably laughing at this.

Oh I'm sure we look pretty ridiculous to them right now.

I'd be laughing if it wasn't so pathetic.

[Tman1]

Well honestly, how do you have a problem concerning the same people on one side of the border and not the other? What about the American Mohawks?

[saturn_656]

Tman1 Tman1:

Well honestly, how do you have a problem concerning the same people on one side of the border and not the other? What about the American Mohawks?

The US probably doesn't entertain this kind of nonsense.

[OnTheIce]

If this cause is so honorable and important for natives....why hide your faces? If you believe in something that strongly, have the stones to show your face.