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In a state of high readiness that's true but over a protracted period it is not effective or realistic to have that level of alert. What happens if you in an OP for a month and nothing happens? Troops lose their edge and effectiveness over time at that level. That may be good for training but in the field that is courting disaster.

[Tricks]

Brenda Brenda:

Its just plain stupid, please. What a moron. He is not only putting himself in danger, but his platoon too. There is a reason they dress the way they do. I think if the guys had a choice, they would love to be dressed NOT so warm in the middle of the desert. You know what? They don't. Holy christ.

Guess not eh?

[EyeBrock]

Scape Scape:

In a state of high readiness that's true but over a protracted period it is not effective or realistic to have that level of alert. What happens if you in an OP for a month and nothing happens? Troops lose their edge and effectiveness over time at that level. That may be good for training but in the field that is courting disaster.

It's been a fair while since I agreed with you pongo!

Well said.

[Newfy]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Newfy Newfy:

Just to play Devil's Advocate, we are currently taught in the British Army to stay fully clothed even when "off duty" when in a location that is likely to be attacked. This would include FOBs as they are contacted regularly. You never know what might happen. What would he have done if ordered to go out on a fighting patrol and only had a couple of minutes to move out? or What if their position looked likely to be overrun (unlikely I know but not impossible) and they had to bug out? I wouldn't like to be running across the desert in pink boxers. I realize that we soldiers need time to relax but when in a location like that you need to be prepared for anything and that means sleeping with your trousers and often even your boots on.

This guy was infantry was he not? I'm aware of what the Brit Army does in training us all to kip in full gear but this guy was off stag at a fire base. As in front line.
It's a bit different than Salisbury Plain, Middle Wallop or KAF. And at the end of the day he was there to do his job.
Criticism unfounded.

Your right about one thing it definately isn't Salisbury Plain, Middle Wallop(Oh how I love it so.........NOT) or KAF(AKA: Slipper City).

[Newfy]

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In a state of high readiness that's true but over a protracted period it is not effective or realistic to have that level of alert. What happens if you in an OP for a month and nothing happens? Troops lose their edge and effectiveness over time at that level. That may be good for training but in the field that is courting disaster.

I'm not saying that they should be fully kitted up at all times but unless washing you should have, at the very least, your trousers on and possibly t-shirt with everything else like boots, body armour, helmet, webbing and of course weapon close to hand.

[EyeBrock]

Sense at last. Really, knocking these artillery/inf guys out there humping it over BFO mountains is better taken from others than the AAC mate. No disrespect intended.

[Newfy]

That's what i meant to begin with but perhaps i didn't put it across the right way. I wouldn't pretend to know what the inf/arty guys etc. do out there although more and more AAC guys are going on tours attached to inf units. I'm not one of them. I wasn't trying to knock them. Just giving my 2 cents with the basic knowledge of inf training I have. For some reason the powers that be in the AAC want us to be more and more like the inf. I did my Junior NCO Cadre a year ago and to be honest that's as close as i'd like to get.

[EyeBrock]

Newf, agreed mate. On all of it.

[Newfy]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Newf, agreed mate. On all of it.

I don't know if you've mentioned it before but just out of curiosity, what cap badge were you? If you don't mind me asking.

[EyeBrock]

Stinkin Crab mate. But I did some other things too.

[Newfy]

That's cool. As much as we rip each other I know one thing that every soldier across the army will agree with and that is that there is no better sound than a Chinook inbound. I've actually considered transfering but i'm waiting to see how things go with my Army pilots application.

[EyeBrock]

Go for it. The thing I've always liked about the pongos is you don't have to be a rodney to fly. Good luck mate.

[Newfy]

Thanks mate

[Hyack]

Welcome back Newfy, it's been damn near a year since we've heard from you. Everything going good for ya?

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Newfy Newfy:

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In a state of high readiness that's true but over a protracted period it is not effective or realistic to have that level of alert. What happens if you in an OP for a month and nothing happens? Troops lose their edge and effectiveness over time at that level. That may be good for training but in the field that is courting disaster.

I'm not saying that they should be fully kitted up at all times but unless washing you should have, at the very least, your trousers on and possibly t-shirt with everything else like boots, body armour, helmet, webbing and of course weapon close to hand.

Webbing, rifle and kevlar should be no more than arms distance or on them at all times but boots do need to be taken off. Foot powder and foot inspections only go so far and when you have a chance to dry out and you know that your not going out on a patrol in the next five minutes then it is acceptable and in fact required to remove footwear at times other then washing. I've had to go months without a shower but I never had to go days in the same socks.