[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

I suppose then that you have no problem with the Canadian response to our people getting in trouble overseas now being (using the Brenda Martin case as an example) as follows:

I have no idea who Brenda Martin is, sorry.

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(And, BTW, why were liberal types so notoriously silent when Will Sampson was getting tortured for real by the Saudis a few years back during Chretiens reign of error? Wrong gender and wrong skin colour for genuine libbos to get all worked up over?)

I remember at the time being quite outraged that the Foreign Affairs stooge who knew that Sampson was being tortured and denied it later probably walked away to plum posting elsewhere. I have few absolutes in life, Thanos, but I don't like torture. Ever.

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Torture has never been a reliable means of extracting information...it is ultimately self-defeating as a means of control... and so one wonders why it is still practiced. The only possible reason must be... pleasure

Who said that? The same guy who said

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There ... are ... four ... lights!

[DerbyX]

Brenda Martin is the CDN citizen jailed in Mexico for allegedly helping a criminal in his activities.

[DrCaleb]

poquas poquas:

AGAIN, it's all trumped by the internationally agreed to child soldier laws.

The only place in the world that can hold him is Gitmo, and that's about to change.

Perhaps you missed my earlier post, back on page 1, about Switzerland offering to take them?