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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:24 pm
 


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As much as I enjoy this insult-fest, does anyone have anything actually pertinent to the article to say?


Yeah, fuck politics. :P

Well said, sir, well said.


Okay, I'm sorry, but this whole thing is one huge fucking joke.

They choose Palin as VP Candidate, then when they find out that she's not exactly "up-to-speed" to put it mildly, they try to denounce her when the campaign goes wrong, and poh wittle Sawah Palin throws temper tantrums because she doesn't like the fact that the media is reporting what the American people deserved to know, which is that SHE IS STUPID AND NOT VP MATERIAL. It was a mistake of the McCain Campaign to even choose her. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:19 pm
 


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That whole anti-American, friend-to-the-terrorists thing about President-elect Barack Obama? Never mind.

Secret Service blamed Palin for sudden spike in Obama death threats
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Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."

Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:33 am
 


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Oh God the horror. If kids bring it up, why not discuss it? Wow, that's so saying we should be teaching it in schools. I never realizing crushing debate and discussion was so great.


"Discussing" creationism, or its contemporary euphemism intelligent design, in science class is equivalent to discussing holocaust denial in history. They are equally repugnant and factually wrong, and deserve no more than a complete and utter evisceration.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:07 am
 


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I dont feel sorry for her one bit, I still think she is one of the most ignorant polticians in the United States and I am so very glad she lost. My only hope is that she runs again in 2012 so that Obama will have another term in office.


Palin still has an over 80% approval rate in Alaska and that makes her the Republican the Democrats fear most. With the post-election analysis leaving a lot of people wondering if McCain was actually working for Obama (due to much of the campaigning McCain did for Obama in the past few months) the attacks on Palin by McCain staffers only serves to reinforce that opinion and, in the long run, it helps Palin distance herself from the lackluster candidacy of McCain.


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Nah, the media should have been fair. They surely hid some reports from Obama, or at least did not give it as much importance. Their only spotlight was on Palin. I am not defending Palin and her comments.

Only that the media should have been fair. Not much to dig up on Obama since they was never intent to report it. That seems fishy to say the least. Since the media did not want to be seen as racist, therefore no reports done to spare them of criticism. Sure that seems fair. 8O


Are you joking me? Obama was the most researched man by the media, they called the dude eveything. Ranging from having connections to Terrorists, to a Communist, to having a brother or something in Africa and making it out to look like Obama ditched him there and doesn't help him.

The Media took a simple thing, and tried to make it look bad against Obama. Palin just happened to be more of a natural of giving the media what they wanted.


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Are you joking me? Obama was the most researched man by the media, they called the dude eveything. Ranging from having connections to Terrorists, to a Communist, to having a brother or something in Africa and making it out to look like Obama ditched him there and doesn't help him.

The Media took a simple thing, and tried to make it look bad against Obama. Palin just happened to be more of a natural of giving the media what they wanted.


The mainstream media did very little in-depth reporting on Obama and his background and even the liberal Washington Post admits this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02895.html

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An Obama Tilt in Campaign Coverage

By Deborah Howell
Sunday, November 9, 2008; Page B06

The Post provided a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they saw as a tilt toward Democrat Barack Obama. My surveys, which ended on Election Day, show that they are right on both counts.

My assistant, Jean Hwang, and I have been examining Post coverage since Nov. 11 of last year on issues, voters, fundraising, the candidates' backgrounds and horse-race stories on tactics, strategy and consultants. We also have looked at photos and Page 1 stories since Obama captured the nomination June 4.

The count was lopsided, with 1,295 horse-race stories and 594 issues stories. The Post was deficient in stories that reported more than the two candidates trading jabs; readers needed articles, going back to the primaries, comparing their positions with outside experts' views. There were no broad stories on energy or science policy, and there were few on religion issues.


Bill Hamilton, assistant managing editor for politics, said, "There are a lot of things I wish we'd been able to do in covering this campaign, but we had to make choices about what we felt we were uniquely able to provide our audiences both in Washington and on the Web. I don't at all discount the importance of issues, but we had a larger purpose, to convey and explain a campaign that our own David Broder described as the most exciting he has ever covered, a narrative that unfolded until the very end. I think our staff rose to the occasion."

The op-ed page ran far more laudatory opinion pieces on Obama, 32, than on Sen. John McCain, 13. There were far more negative pieces about McCain, 58, than there were about Obama, 32, and Obama got the editorial board's endorsement. The Post has several conservative columnists, but not all were gung-ho about McCain.

Stories and photos about Obama in the news pages outnumbered those devoted to McCain. Reporters, photographers and editors found the candidacy of Obama, the first African American major-party nominee, more newsworthy and historic. Journalists love the new; McCain, 25 years older than Obama, was already well known and had more scars from his longer career in politics.

The number of Obama stories since Nov. 11 was 946, compared with McCain's 786. Both had hard-fought primary campaigns, but Obama's battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton was longer, and the numbers reflect that.

McCain clinched the GOP nomination on March 4, three months before Obama won his. From June 4 to Election Day, the tally was Obama, 626 stories, and McCain, 584. Obama was on the front page 176 times, McCain, 144 times; 41 stories featured both.

Our survey results are comparable to figures for the national news media from a study by the Project for Excellence in Journalism. It found that from June 9, when Clinton dropped out of the race, until Nov. 2, 66 percent of the campaign stories were about Obama compared with 53 percent for McCain; some stories featured both. The project also calculated that in that time, 57 percent of the stories were about the horse race and 13 percent were about issues.

Counting from June 4, Obama was in 311 Post photos and McCain in 282. Obama led in most categories. Obama led 133 to 121 in pictures more than three columns wide, 178 to 161 in smaller pictures, and 164 to 133 in color photos. In black and white photos, the nominees were about even, with McCain at 149 and Obama at 147. On Page 1, they were even at 26 each. Post photo and news editors were surprised by my first count on Aug. 3, which showed a much wider disparity, and made a more conscious effort at balance afterward.

Some readers complain that coverage is too poll-driven. They're right, but it's not going to change. The Post's polling was on the mark, and in some cases ahead of the curve, in focusing on independent voters, racial attitudes, low-wage voters, the shift of African Americans' support from Clinton to Obama and the rising importance of economic issues. The Post and its polling partner ABC News include 50 to 60 issues questions in every survey instead of just horse-race questions, so public attitudes were plumbed as well.

The Post had a hard-working team on the campaign. Special praise goes to Dan Balz, the best, most level-headed, incisive political reporter and analyst in newspapers. His stories and "Dan Balz's Take" on washingtonpost.com were fair, penetrating and on the mark. His mentor, David S. Broder, was as sharp as ever.

Michael Dobbs, the Fact Checker, also deserves praise for parsing campaign rhetoric for the overblown or just flat wrong. Howard Kurtz's Ad Watch was a sharp reality check.

The Post's biographical pieces, especially the first ones -- McCain by Michael Leahy and Obama by David Maraniss -- were compelling. Maraniss demystified Obama's growing-up years; the piece on his mother and grandparents was a great read. Leahy's first piece on McCain's father and grandfather, both admirals, told me where McCain got his maverick ways as a kid -- right from the two old men.

But Obama deserved tougher scrutiny than he got, especially of his undergraduate years, his start in Chicago and his relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who was convicted this year of influence-peddling in Chicago. The Post did nothing on Obama's acknowledged drug use as a teenager.

The Post had good coverage of voters, mainly by Krissah Williams Thompson and Kevin Merida. Anne Hull's stories from Florida, Michigan and Liberty University, and Wil Haygood's story from central Montana brought readers into voters' lives. Jose Antonio Vargas's pieces about campaigns and the Internet were standouts.

One gaping hole in coverage involved Joe Biden, Obama's running mate. When Gov. Sarah Palin was nominated for vice president, reporters were booking the next flight to Alaska. Some readers thought The Post went over Palin with a fine-tooth comb and neglected Biden. They are right; it was a serious omission. However, I do not agree with those readers who thought The Post did only hatchet jobs on her. There were several good stories on her, the best on page 1 by Sally Jenkins on how Palin grew up in Alaska.

In early coverage, I wasn't a big fan of the long-running series called "The Gurus" on consultants and important people in the campaigns. The Post has always prided itself on its political coverage, and profiles of the top dogs were probably well read by political junkies. But I thought the series was of no practical use to readers. While there were some interesting pieces in The Frontrunners series, none of them told me anything about where the candidates stood on any issue.

Deborah Howell can be reached at 202-334-7582 or ombudsman@washpost.com.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:50 pm
 




She is her own worst enemy as she is addicted to the limelight and just keeps talking. Also, it's not the media stoking the flames here it's Mitt Romney as he has eyes on 2012. The knives are out but it is not McCain that has it out for Sarah.


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Is it just me or does she constantly have a whiney tone to her voice. Its like she is on the verge of collapsing and saying its not my fault.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:55 pm
 


It's like cats in heat or fingernails on chalkboard.

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Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a "diva" and was going off message intentionally. The former and current Romney supporters further are pushing Romney supporters for key Republican jobs, including head of the Republican National Committee


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I dont feel sorry for her one bit, I still think she is one of the most ignorant polticians in the United States and I am so very glad she lost. My only hope is that she runs again in 2012 so that Obama will have another term in office.


Palin still has an over 80% approval rate in Alaska and that makes her the Republican the Democrats fear most.


Wow, 80% of Alaska is fucking stupid.

I hope the rest of America doesn't pull another boner like Bush and elect her next.


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80% approval? 8O



Wow...


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I dont feel sorry for her one bit, I still think she is one of the most ignorant polticians in the United States and I am so very glad she lost. My only hope is that she runs again in 2012 so that Obama will have another term in office.


Palin still has an over 80% approval rate in Alaska and that makes her the Republican the Democrats fear most.


Wow, 80% of Alaska is fucking stupid.

I hope the rest of America doesn't pull another boner like Bush and elect her next.


No, 52% already screwed the pooch and elected a guy who's openly said he's going to screw Canada into the ground the first chance he gets. I hope you keep cheering on Obama when you're in the unemployment line because of him.


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