[TattoodGirl]

Right bashing left...left bashing right, what a waste of energy. Maybe if everybody, who wants change in the justice system, put this kind of energy to good use you would see change. If you dont want to see this type of criminal being released after 25 years, come up with concrete ideas...start a campaingn, or better yet, help the campaingns for victims rights. By posting endless rants about whose fault it is doesnt change the system nor does it help victims of these monsters. Look at what you do and can do to better the system and help in this area instead of blaming one side or the other.

Also, come to grips with the fact that there will never be a death penalty in Canada.

[mtbr]

DerbyX DerbyX:

mtbr mtbr:

Liberal Law and dis- Order!

I remember that story my friend lived in Altadore when she went missing everybody was searching for her. amazing how time flies and to think that piece of shit get's to walk the streets again.

Surething sunshine. This was your first post eh? No political fingerpointing there eh?

I have yet to see you post any sympathy for the victim or the family, you only posted to defend your partisan ass

[DerbyX]

mtbr mtbr:

I have yet to see you post any sympathy for the victim or the family, you only posted to defend your partisan ass

I don't need to post my sympathy for them to have it and I find alot of times people that mourn publically rather then privately (which is what I believe is more proper) do so for other reasons.

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

Right bashing left...left bashing right, what a waste of energy. Maybe if everybody, who wants change in the justice system, put this kind of energy to good use you would see change. If you dont want to see this type of criminal being released after 25 years, come up with concrete ideas...start a campaingn, or better yet, help the campaingns for victims rights. By posting endless rants about whose fault it is doesnt change the system nor does it help victims of these monsters. Look at what you do and can do to better the system and help in this area instead of blaming one side or the other.

Also, come to grips with the fact that there will never be a death penalty in Canada.

The problem is that politicians and judges do actually want to ensure that people like this never again harm others. I wish it were that simple. The problem is that alot of times people like this fall through the cracks because the system is designed to err on the side of innocent until proven guilty and rehabilitation as a focus so that the David Milgards are very few and far between.

Nobody wants pedophile murderers to walk. Nobody wants to wrongfully convict innocent people either nor make rehabilitation and redemption impossible. The problem is that the system has to try and balance both sides, a juggling act made all the more difficult by the inherent element of human error.

[hurley_108]

DerbyX DerbyX:

The problem is that politicians and judges do actually want to ensure that people like this never again harm others. I wish it were that simple. The problem is that alot of times people like this fall through the cracks because the system is designed to err on the side of innocent until proven guilty and rehabilitation as a focus so that the David Milgards are very few and far between.

Nobody wants pedophile murderers to walk. Nobody wants to wrongfully convict innocent people either nor make rehabilitation and redemption impossible. The problem is that the system has to try and balance both sides, a juggling act made all the more difficult by the inherent element of human error.

[scarecrowe]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Kinda funny listening to all you "righties" talk about the same kind of justice in those countries you support bombing. China,

...when did you fight in the famous "Chinese War" ? During a wet dream?

[scarecrowe]

DerbyX DerbyX:

The problem is that alot of times people like this fall through the cracks

... the only crack this guy should have fallen through would have been opened with a latch with him on the end of a rope.

[DerbyX]

scarecrowe scarecrowe:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Kinda funny listening to all you "righties" talk about the same kind of justice in those countries you support bombing. China,

...when did you fight in the famous "Chinese War" ? During a wet dream?

[ridenrain]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

Also, come to grips with the fact that there will never be a death penalty in Canada.

Why? Because Trudea said so? Because one side is so entrenched that they refuse to discuss it? I think that when we have a very clear, proven case, we should use it.
I have more trust and faith in a judge and jury given this huge task than the proven track record of paroll boards.

[MacDonaill]

Jesus. Don't any of you think you are being just a bit hysterical? The death penalty for chrissakes?

The death penalty is just a way for a bloodthirsty society to calm its own crime hysteria. It isn't justice, it's trying to make two wrongs a right. It's not even a deterrent. It's just plain folly.

I personally don't think the guy should get parole, but if he's at low risk to re-offend and he is put under strict conditions, what's the point in keeping him in prison? There are plenty of more dangerous and violent criminals to deal with then an old geezer who killed a child almost 30 years ago.

I feel sorry for the family too, but frankly it isn't up to them what happens. He did time in prison, probably got his o-ring pounded 24/7 for the last 28 years, and now he's on conditional day parole in another city, in another province.

The justice system is there to minimise the risk anti-social people pose to society. It is NOT a tool of revenge.

[scarecrowe]

$1:

It's not even a deterrent

Who cares about deterrence, it is more about cleaning up and saving money. If it deters one, all the better.

$1:

There are plenty of more dangerous and violent criminals to deal with then an old geezer who killed a child almost 30 years ago.

BS

$1:

probably got his o-ring pounded 24/7

So we gave him what he was originally looking for and granted his wish. Some punishment.

$1:

It is NOT a tool of revenge.

Revenge? No. Justice? Absolutely.

In the early 70's the polls in Canada showed an 85% support level for the death penalty for those whose undeniably committed murder. Brainwashing children of that era into thinking that this is unacceptable has created a young adult community who do not have the guts to pull the trigger without feeling some sort of sympathy for the murdering perpetrator.
Homolka, Bernardo and many others survive and create expensive, tax supported employment opportunities such as for prison guards, parole officers, parole board members, lawyers, psychologists and boat load of other parasitic vermin who fight tooth and nail to prevent executions in order to save their lucrative professions and in the end waste valuable resources that can actually improve society in regards to much needed services from child welfare to medical research and countless more worthy "causes".

So don't feed me this crap about advanced societies being enlightened and superior for not using capital punishment for we have become undeniably weak.

[mixedfarmer]

why take a chance with other peoples lives? hang the idiot

[ridenrain]

The death penalty is probably best left for another thread but the functioning of the in-justice system and the eternal optimism of the paroll boards is definately in question here.

Pedophiles and the like have a sickness that dosen't seem to be treatable so paroll is really out of the question for this guy.

[scarecrowe]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Pedophiles and the like have a sickness

So, euthanize them. It is only humane to do so.

[snuggles61]

lily lily:

snuggles61 snuggles61:

Can anyone out there tell me if there ever has been a prisoner in Canada who was denied parole even after serving 25 years? I've been researching this every which way and I come up with goose eggs. My personal opinion for what it's worth is as long as there's someone from the immediate family that can attend a parole meeting and oppose the release then too bad/so sad for the criminal.

No such thing as parole when you've served your entire sentence.

As it turns out he serves the 25 years then is on parole for the remainder of his life at least as far as this case goes according to today's Regina Leader Post newspaper, it also mentions in that same article that back in the 70s life without parole was possible but at that time prison guards were being murdered by this lifers so they put in the clause of parole after 25 years to give them incentive to behave.