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roger-roger
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:32 am
Streaker Streaker: Sure they have a presence in Afghanistan, but it's paltry compared to what they have happening in Iraq. The Americans had easily more then twice the ammount people in Afghanistan when we did in 07 when I was there. By your logic Canada's contribution was paltry, we were outside the wire in Kandahar more but the Americans were in Kabul, Helmand and in Kandahar. The Americans also took care of all the air support as well as hard field rations.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:34 am
Streaker Streaker: Sure they have a presence in Afghanistan, but it's paltry compared to what they have happening in Iraq. I think 32000 plus, is a bit more than just a presence. Kind of beats the shit out of your stupid "we are in Afghan so the Yanks can fight in Iraq" theory.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:41 am
Anyway back to the purpose of this thread.... The excalibur shell is worth the cost, and an awesome piece of kit!
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:43 am
putz putz: Anyway back to the purpose of this thread.... The excalibur shell is worth the cost, and an awesome piece of kit! Funny how Streaker has that ability to hijack any thread to do with the service and start his baseless crap.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:44 am
PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Streaker Streaker: Sure they have a presence in Afghanistan, but it's paltry compared to what they have happening in Iraq. I think 32000 plus, is a bit more than just a presence. Kind of beats the shit out of your stupid "we are in Afghan so the Yanks can fight in Iraq" theory. 32 000 is peanuts for them when they have something like 150 000 in Iraq. They bullied other NATO countries into doing their dirty work in Afghanistan in order to free up more resources for their rape of Iraq. It's really not that complicated.
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roger-roger
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:45 am
Then what is Canada's contribution Streaker?
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:46 am
Streaker Streaker: PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Streaker Streaker: Sure they have a presence in Afghanistan, but it's paltry compared to what they have happening in Iraq. I think 32000 plus, is a bit more than just a presence. Kind of beats the shit out of your stupid "we are in Afghan so the Yanks can fight in Iraq" theory. 32 000 is peanuts for them when they have something like 150 000 in Iraq. They bullied other NATO countries into doing their dirty work in Afghanistan in order to free up more resources for their rape of Iraq. It's really not that complicated. Why don't you go start a new thread and stop from hijacking any thread that deals with Afghanistan
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:56 am
Seeing as ISAF forces outnumbered the US forces in Afghanistan until this spring, Streaker not far off when he says that the US contibution in Afghanistan is paltry in comparison to Iraq. Hell, the US has more personnel in South Korea or Japan than they do in Afghanistan...
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:58 am
Eisensapper Eisensapper: Then what is Canada's contribution Streaker? 100% more than it should be until the US gets out of Iraq.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:04 am
bootlegga bootlegga: Seeing as ISAF forces outnumbered the US forces in Afghanistan until this spring, Streaker not far off when he says that the US contibution in Afghanistan is paltry in comparison to Iraq. Hell, the US has more personnel in South Korea or Japan than they do in Afghanistan... A bit of an old story, but here http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/03/ ... litary.php$1: There are about 62,000 foreign troops in Afghanistan, about 34,000 of them American, up from just 25,000 American troops in 2005. The American troops are divided into a force of 16,000 who operate under NATO command and 18,000 who conduct counterterrorism and other missions under American command outside the NATO structure, according to Pentagon statistics. The initial planning under way would send about two additional brigades of American forces, or about 7,000 troops, to Afghanistan next year. That would meet two-thirds of what commanders have portrayed in recent months as a shortfall of three brigades, or about 10,000 troops, including combat forces, trainers, intelligence officers and crews for added helicopters and troop carriers. Okay, 34,000 US soldiers out of a force of 62,000 is FAR from a paltry, especially since NATO is an alliance. Comparing Iraq to Afghanistan is poor since Iraq is more populated, and as such has a lot more infrastructure. Even in 2005, the US constituted a little bit less than 50% of the troops, quite a lot for a nation with obligations to South Korea, Japan, European bases, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and wherever else.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:08 am
They have more soldiers in Afghan then we have in the Army, yet it is paltry? You are messed up. Do you recall that when they went into Iraq, (regardless of anybodys opinion of it) they faced a conventional armed forces, unlike Afghanistan. I guess the air assets they have in Afghan mean shit to you also. Yep, the Yanks are just sitting on their collective asses in the 'stan, sure glad we got the Germans and French there.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:11 am
Wouldn't you prefer it if there were 150 000 more of them in Afghanistan?
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:15 am
Streaker Streaker: Wouldn't you prefer it if there were 150 000 more of them in Afghanistan? What happened to your "they are not pulling their weight" argument? They are doing their share, it would be nice to get the Euro countries into the fight though. They can spout off about having troops in country, however, suntanning in mazar sharif is quiet different then fighting through a wadi in Panjwai
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roger-roger
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:16 am
PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: They have more soldiers in Afghan then we have in the Army, yet it is paltry? You are messed up. Do you recall that when they went into Iraq, (regardless of anybodys opinion of it) they faced a conventional armed forces, unlike Afghanistan. I guess the air assets they have in Afghan mean shit to you also. Yep, the Yanks are just sitting on their collective asses in the 'stan, sure glad we got the Germans and French there. 
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:21 am
PENATRATOR PENATRATOR: Streaker Streaker: Wouldn't you prefer it if there were 150 000 more of them in Afghanistan? What happened to your "they are not pulling their weight" argument? They are doing their share, it would be nice to get the Euro countries into the fight though. They can spout off about having troops in country, however, suntanning in mazar sharif is quiet different then fighting through a wadi in Panjwai How many soldiers did the Soviets put into Afghanistan? And still they failed. The Americans have a small fraction of that. They're not pulling their weight - too busy screwing Iraq up. Anyhow, kudos to the Europeans for not being America's suckas.
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