[Benoit]

novachick novachick:

Benoit Benoit:

Transforming lakes into toxic dumps because "our community desperately needs those jobs" is the utmost stupid nonsense.

God only knows your the king of stupid nonsense

Communities are more in need of employees to fill already vacant job positions.

[novachick]

Benoit Benoit:

novachick novachick:

Benoit Benoit:

Transforming lakes into toxic dumps because "our community desperately needs those jobs" is the utmost stupid nonsense.

God only knows your the king of stupid nonsense

Communities are more in need of employees to fill already vacant job positions.

Yeah because Wendy's are paying the big bucks

[Zipperfish]

ziggy ziggy:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

ziggy ziggy:

Well the permafrost will keep it from going anywhere but maybe some should read up a bit on the options which used to be pumping it straight into a lake, great bear,slave lake come to mind.

Exactly. It seems ot me that pumping into a lake is the kind of thing that should not be allowed. They should build a tailings impoundment area, like other mines. Donating the use of a public lake so that the company does not have to treat its tailings and waste rock amounts to a subsidy, in my opinion.

Tailings ponds mean disturbing lots of ground and it will be right next to the lake anyway,they do their due diligence and count every single fish in a lake before they do this,then they make new habitat for the fish that will be displaced.
For every bit of habitat you ruin or make unsuitable you have to make new habitat somewhere close and equal to or greater(usually) then what you ruined.

The cyanide and other deadly goodies everyones worried about come from the mining process,not exposing or mining the rock that contains the gold.

So much mis-information on here it boggles my mind.

Fair enough though,people like to take shots at mining companies and rightly so.
Thats why they do things right now environmentally speaking.

Using a lake, I would say, isn't the right thing. The mining lobby was doing pretty good until they came up with this hare-brained scheme. There's more to it than just fish. There's a whole other bunch of stuff that a lake provides--littoral and riparian habitat, hydrological services, etc.

[ziggy]

Benoit Benoit:

Transforming lakes into toxic dumps because "our community desperately needs those jobs" is the utmost stupid nonsense.

But yet you have gold in your computer so your part of the problem right?

It's not the jobs that start these mines,It's the market for gold,so try and live without it for a day and lets see who's the hypocrite.

[ziggy]

ziggy ziggy:

Benoit Benoit:

Transforming lakes into toxic dumps because "our community desperately needs those jobs" is the utmost stupid nonsense.

But yet you have gold in your computer so your part of the problem right?

It's not the jobs that start these mines,It's the market for gold,so try and live without it for a day and lets see who's the hypocrite.

Thats why they provide allmost 3 times the habitat lost when they do this.

they dont haved do but it appeases the environuts that like to believe everything they read in the paper or see on the news.

[ziggy]

Using a lake, I would say, isn't the right thing. The mining lobby was doing pretty good until they came up with this hare-brained scheme. There's more to it than just fish. There's a whole other bunch of stuff that a lake provides--littoral and riparian habitat, hydrological services, etc.[/quote]

They have been doing it for 30 years,Environmentally speaking it's better then building a tailings pond.

[djakeydd]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

djakeydd djakeydd:

It is too bad that so few people can get facts straight. This news release makes it sound like lakes are going to be used for garbage disposal. The simple fact is, mining activity exposes acid rock. This rock contains stuff like arsenic etc., which if exposed to the atmosphere becomes highly toxic. As long as this rock remains underwater (either in manmade or natural lakes) it is harmless. Natural lakes are in some ways a better choice for the disposal, because their is no liklihood of dam breaks. This is a very simple matter of common sense, but the idiocy that pervades this site always takes precedence - like how many people on here have iq's less than peter mackay??

Yeah, you had a point but kind of went off the deep end there. Actually, teh Mining Assocaition of BC takes a similar tack: the biggest environmental problem with mines is acid rock drainage, and burying tailings and waste rock in a geologically stable lake ensures no ARD, so why not use lakes.

I don't buy it. There's plenty of ways to deal wiht waste rock and tailings that do not involve the permanenet destrcution of a natural lake. The lake option is just cheaper, so naturally mining companies would prefer that option. I don't think it's a good deal for Canadians though.

I'm all for mines. I just don't think they should be able to use natural lakes for their operations.

I am not sure that a lake would be permanently destroyed by the disposal of tailings, and if you look at mines like hyland copper, would you not agree that the man made lake option is more of an environmental problem than using existing lakes? This issue probably stems from Northgate mines proposal to use Duncan Lake next to it's mine operation for tailings disposal. Duncan aka amazay lake is inaccessible by anything but aircraft for the most part, and it's use for tailings has never seemed like a terribly bad idea. Native groups in the area did not even know it existed before the Kemess project started.

[Zipperfish]

ziggy ziggy:

Using a lake, I would say, isn't the right thing. The mining lobby was doing pretty good until they came up with this hare-brained scheme. There's more to it than just fish. There's a whole other bunch of stuff that a lake provides--littoral and riparian habitat, hydrological services, etc.

They have been doing it for 30 years,Environmentally speaking it's better then building a tailings pond.[/quote]

No, I don't think so. The mining industry better catch up with the 20th century. You can't just dump your rocks in the nearest lake. A natural lake is part of a biological and hydrological system. The mining companies just look at how many fish they'll have to replace--there's more to it than that.

[Benoit]

novachick novachick:

Benoit Benoit:

Communities are more in need of employees to fill already vacant job positions.

Yeah because Wendy's are paying the big bucks

I was thinking about physicians and nurses. No physician will want to practice out there. The community is so old-fashioned, the people so work sick.