[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

RUEZ RUEZ:

If they have something that was made last week or last year then you have a problem. A 16 year old video? They're just wasting our time.

Only if it's reasonable to assume that he's changed his opinion since. Only if he has a history of being supportive of the rights of homosexuals. Does he?

both him and brad wall have lead otherwise clean political carrers in recent years , mr lukawaski is a good politican who is not know for creating trouble or any extreme views . he has not done anythig wrong during his 4 years in ottawa , shouldn't that be a clue that he is sorry for his silly old comments .

this is nothing more than an attempt to ruin a conservative mp's carrer by the gay media , thats all it is , nothign more or less

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

how is it exceptable to ruin his carrer over this ? i don't see how it is , i think this smear campiagn is sick and disgusting and worse than the comments

So much for accountability if it's worse to hold a person to account for what he's said than it was for him to say it in the first place.

but should we really hold otherwise good and quality politians to account for things they did when they were young and not even an elected official ?
mean mr lukawiski has not said anything homohopic during his time in ottawa , heck he hasn't even done anythign wrong that i know of .

mean why should he put but into such trouble over this , honestly this is rediclous . he even apologised , what more do they want ?

[hurley_108]

You all want to talk about the age and seriousness of this comment. Let's look back at a few other examples, shall we?

Malcolm Azania, NDP candidate for Edmonton Strathcona in the 2004 election made anti-semitic comments almost ten years previously on a usenet group. A conservative blogger dug them up and hit him with them during the campaign. He apologised, the B'nai B'rith accepted the pology, but the press continued the story. The comments were probably worse than these, but these were discovered after teh tape was sloppily left behind. Azania's were actively sought out from whatever obscure source could be found.

Everyone knows teh story of Carolyn Parrish and her "Damn Americans" comment - which was made on the sidelines of a press conference and just happened to be picked up by a mic. That was a real off-colour remark, but I don't recall anyone of the then Alliance party calling for restraint and reason in taking the comments for what they were and not what they could be made into for political gain.

You guys are just in the unfortunate position of having left something outside Harper's scope of control.

[hurley_108]

ryan29 ryan29:

both him and brad wall have lead otherwise clean political carrers in recent years , mr lukawaski is a good politican who is not know for creating trouble or any extreme views . he has not done anythig wrong during his 4 years in ottawa , shouldn't that be a clue that he is sorry for his silly old comments .

this is nothing more than an attempt to ruin a conservative mp's carrer by the gay media , thats all it is , nothign more or less

"Gay media." Listen to yourself. You're as bad as he is.

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

You all want to talk about the age and seriousness of this comment. Let's look back at a few other examples, shall we?

Malcolm Azania, NDP candidate for Edmonton Strathcona in the 2004 election made anti-semitic comments almost ten years previously on a usenet group. A conservative blogger dug them up and hit him with them during the campaign. He apologised, the B'nai B'rith accepted the pology, but the press continued the story. The comments were probably worse than these, but these were discovered after teh tape was sloppily left behind. Azania's were actively sought out from whatever obscure source could be found.

Everyone knows teh story of Carolyn Parrish and her "Damn Americans" comment - which was made on the sidelines of a press conference and just happened to be picked up by a mic. That was a real off-colour remark, but I don't recall anyone of the then Alliance party calling for restraint and reason in taking the comments for what they were and not what they could be made into for political gain.

You guys are just in the unfortunate position of having left something outside Harper's scope of control.

but carolyn parrish's comments were made just after the american election and she was well know for sayign such things . she had become a loudmouth .

mr lukawiski is an othersise quiet and respected mp , can you people who are so upset with him even name 1 thing he has done to upset people during his time in ottawa ? this whole episode is rather rediclous and a smear campaign aimed at ruining this mp's carrer in the hopes that it improves the othersie poor chances of the ndp in saskatchewan
if he quits then they will target his riding is one to go ndp , obvivously that is there hope here .

[hurley_108]

ryan29 ryan29:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

You all want to talk about the age and seriousness of this comment. Let's look back at a few other examples, shall we?

Malcolm Azania, NDP candidate for Edmonton Strathcona in the 2004 election made anti-semitic comments almost ten years previously on a usenet group. A conservative blogger dug them up and hit him with them during the campaign. He apologised, the B'nai B'rith accepted the pology, but the press continued the story. The comments were probably worse than these, but these were discovered after teh tape was sloppily left behind. Azania's were actively sought out from whatever obscure source could be found.

Everyone knows teh story of Carolyn Parrish and her "Damn Americans" comment - which was made on the sidelines of a press conference and just happened to be picked up by a mic. That was a real off-colour remark, but I don't recall anyone of the then Alliance party calling for restraint and reason in taking the comments for what they were and not what they could be made into for political gain.

You guys are just in the unfortunate position of having left something outside Harper's scope of control.

but carolyn parrish's comments were made just after the american election and she was well know for sayign such things . she had become a loudmouth .

mr lukawiski is an othersise quiet and respected mp , can you people who are so upset with him even name 1 thing he has done to upset people during his time in ottawa ? this whole episode is rather rediclous and a smear campaign aimed at ruining this mp's carrer in the hopes that it improves the othersie poor chances of the ndp in saskatchewan
if he quits then they will target his riding is one to go ndp , obvivously that is there hope here .

But it's old... But it's a joke... But he hasn't said anything else...

Pathetic.

[PluggyRug]

Another storm in a teacup brought to you by the illustrious NDP half wits.

Whom took six months before their thick skulls registered what they had.

And some people want these idiots to form a goverment...go figure.

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

both him and brad wall have lead otherwise clean political carrers in recent years , mr lukawaski is a good politican who is not know for creating trouble or any extreme views . he has not done anythig wrong during his 4 years in ottawa , shouldn't that be a clue that he is sorry for his silly old comments .

this is nothing more than an attempt to ruin a conservative mp's carrer by the gay media , thats all it is , nothign more or less

"Gay media." Listen to yourself. You're as bad as he is.

well i was only refer to it that way because its well known that it is very gay friendly these days , look to some of its programing and where its located ( downtown toronto ) not meant to be inapproiate just pointing that out.


but i stand by my comments that this is nothing more than a smear campaign aimed at ruining an otherwise good politicans carrer .

and i challenge you to find one example where this mp has done anythign wrong during his time in ottawa .

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

You all want to talk about the age and seriousness of this comment. Let's look back at a few other examples, shall we?

Malcolm Azania, NDP candidate for Edmonton Strathcona in the 2004 election made anti-semitic comments almost ten years previously on a usenet group. A conservative blogger dug them up and hit him with them during the campaign. He apologised, the B'nai B'rith accepted the pology, but the press continued the story. The comments were probably worse than these, but these were discovered after teh tape was sloppily left behind. Azania's were actively sought out from whatever obscure source could be found.

Everyone knows teh story of Carolyn Parrish and her "Damn Americans" comment - which was made on the sidelines of a press conference and just happened to be picked up by a mic. That was a real off-colour remark, but I don't recall anyone of the then Alliance party calling for restraint and reason in taking the comments for what they were and not what they could be made into for political gain.

You guys are just in the unfortunate position of having left something outside Harper's scope of control.

but carolyn parrish's comments were made just after the american election and she was well know for sayign such things . she had become a loudmouth .

mr lukawiski is an othersise quiet and respected mp , can you people who are so upset with him even name 1 thing he has done to upset people during his time in ottawa ? this whole episode is rather rediclous and a smear campaign aimed at ruining this mp's carrer in the hopes that it improves the othersie poor chances of the ndp in saskatchewan
if he quits then they will target his riding is one to go ndp , obvivously that is there hope here .

But it's old... But it's a joke... But he hasn't said anything else...

Pathetic.

oh come on he wasn't even being serious in the video , and since then he has not been in trouble .

i don't think its right to go after an otherwise clean politician over such a stuiped thing , hoenstly this is rediclous and not somethignt the average canadian is at all concerned about

the ndp is not going to gain to many votes from this and will never be gaining mr lukawiskis riding over this even if he does get forced to not run next eelcton . another conservative will win that seat cause the locals there will be enraged that the ndp did this to there popular local mp . they will not gain that seat over this .

[hurley_108]

ryan29 ryan29:

well i was only refer to it that way because its well known that it is very gay friendly these days , look to some of its programing and where its located ( downtown toronto ) not meant to be inapproiate just pointing that out.

So to be gay-neutral they should relocate to Calgary and never mention homosexuality in their programming at all?

$1:

but i stand by my comments that this is nothing more than a smear campaign aimed at ruining an otherwise good politicans carrer .

and i challenge you to find one example where this mp has done anythign wrong during his time in ottawa .

I challenge you to prove that this comment doesn't represent his true opinions on homosexuality.

[ryan29]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

ryan29 ryan29:

well i was only refer to it that way because its well known that it is very gay friendly these days , look to some of its programing and where its located ( downtown toronto ) not meant to be inapproiate just pointing that out.

So to be gay-neutral they should relocate to Calgary and never mention homosexuality in their programming at all?

$1:

but i stand by my comments that this is nothing more than a smear campaign aimed at ruining an otherwise good politicans carrer .

and i challenge you to find one example where this mp has done anythign wrong during his time in ottawa .

I challenge you to prove that this comment doesn't represent his true opinions on homosexuality.

well how are we suppose to know what someones deep down opinion on such an issue is , all i know is he has been an otherwise good mp durig his time in ottawa .

would harper had choose him as a parliamentary secretary if he was not know as a good mp and hard worker ?

he simply hasn't done anything bad in ottawa or during his time as an mp to deserve this punishment he is geting from the media and ndp . a good mp does not deserve to be smeared like this .

[Ripcat]

Unless this guy had a son come out of the closet since those comments were made and was forced out of love for his son to learn more about the gay community then I doubt his opinions and private thoughts have changed much from his original comments.

His apology was insincere and was just an attempt at damage control.

Hey, one good thing is we got a Tory to speak without having Harper standing there looking over their shoulder...

[commanderkai]

lily lily:

RUEZ RUEZ:

The only thing different about this guy is that he got caught saying that crap on video.

Are you suggesting this sort of attitude is common?

Umm...yeah...I'd think so, but that's my personal opinion

[Tricks]

Wasn't this popular opinion 17 years ago?

[CrazyCanuck007]

who hasn't said something "bad" during a private conversation.

like i always say....

Free Speech is a right, unless you say something that offends someone....