[mtbr]

who ever plugs them in


puts the coins in the meter

[sandorski]

QBall QBall:

$18,440 (which should work out to $20,000+ in Canada) gets you a ZENN 2.2 LX with A/C, radio and no air bags. This means I have a vehicle that can go 80 kilometers before it needs a four hour recharge. This would be fine if you never plan to leave the city ever again. Bye bye family car trips, so long camping trips, ta ta Sunday drives to help explore your community/province. I would not purchase this vehicle nor consider it wise to invest in this company until they address range issues. For the same money, and probably less, you can get a Honda Civic which has fantastic milage and is not restricted in range.

It's perfect for living in a Major City. Work, School, Shopping, and other things are within reach with this vehicle. Sure, you can't go on family trips, Rent or just Buy a second vehicle for that purpose. No big whoop

[QBall]

sandorski sandorski:

QBall QBall:

$18,440 (which should work out to $20,000+ in Canada) gets you a ZENN 2.2 LX with A/C, radio and no air bags. This means I have a vehicle that can go 80 kilometers before it needs a four hour recharge. This would be fine if you never plan to leave the city ever again. Bye bye family car trips, so long camping trips, ta ta Sunday drives to help explore your community/province. I would not purchase this vehicle nor consider it wise to invest in this company until they address range issues. For the same money, and probably less, you can get a Honda Civic which has fantastic milage and is not restricted in range.

It's perfect for living in a Major City. Work, School, Shopping, and other things are within reach with this vehicle. Sure, you can't go on family trips, Rent or just Buy a second vehicle for that purpose. No big whoop

Very few people can afford to buy a vehicle to drive to work and a vehicle for everything else. Renting a vehicle to go on family outings every weekend negates any savings you would experience in buying an electric vehicle as opposed to buying a conventional vehicle. If Zenn cannot offer a vehicle that can appeal to the vsat majority of the population who want just one, multi-purpose vehicle then Zenn are going to be fighting Smart for the thin market segment of people who can afford the two vehicles.
Also on the website it states the "Discover Battery" option for the Zenn, which extends the range of the vehicle from 56 Km to 80 Km, consists of 6 12v sealed lead acid batteries, which I believe (maybe someone can confirm this) would be 6 motorcycle batteries. I do not know how long these batteries last, however it is my understanding that lead acid batteries are not very resistant to deep-cycling (deep discharge followed by a full charge). Any learned posters who could educate us?

[Wally_Sconce]

if I wanted to save money, I could save more money with a small Honda that burns gasoline. especially when it doesn't cost 16 grand USD to buy an old Honda.

[Ripcat]

Those that are stating the cost is too much, or the range is too low or it doesn't suit your needs, get your heads out of your asses....

As far as cost goes, did you buy a plasma TV when they were $10,000? No. Did you or are you considering getting one now that they are only $2000 and come with a surround sound set-up? I'd guess the answer there is yes. Honda Civics? When you make and sell over 500,000 units a year around the world then of course the cost will be less....

The range of 80 km on a charge. This is perfect for many urban Canadians, especially when you think of all the time they spend sitting at traffic lights burning fuel and going nowhere and all the extra fuel they burn accelerating from a stop at all those traffic lights and stop signs.

Whether or not it suits your needs. It doesn't suit mine either but who cares??! It suits someone's needs and they should have the opportunity make use of it.

What next? Are you going to call for a ban on bicycles?? At least the driver of the ZENN is licensed, insured and hopefully mature enough to follow the rules of the road.

[mtbr]

I say go ahead and let them sell it....just don't come crying for government handouts when the company falls flat on its face. And you better cut the price to below 10 grand or you'll be dead out of the gate. 16000 grand

[mapleleafsnation]

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

Let the market go, and see if it survives or dies. Right now it seems the market wants them (or at least the U.S. market).

Peer-reviewed study show that the average distance of travel for Canadians from their house to location X is 14km, those values were calculated over a year. I don't know about you, but that fits perfectly in the range.

I personally never leave the city on weekends, probably few people do. Perhaps once or twice a year I visit family who live further away.


And the person who made the comment about Ferrari, etc... Stop making it sound like if 90% of the population are driving luxury cars.


Also, faster is not safer. That's one of the most ridiculous comment I've read. Anybody watches Canada's Worst Driver? Usually the people who crash in this show are the ones who go too quickly.

Heck, is it easier to dodge a deer when you go at 100 km/h or 10 km/h? Yeah thought so.

The rules are there for a reason, now arguing that things fit into the rules and that this is a bad thing is irrational and anarchic.

[QBall]

mtbr mtbr:

I say go ahead and let them sell it....just don't come crying for government handouts when the company falls flat on its face. And you better cut the price to below 10 grand or you'll be dead out of the gate. 16000 grand

[mapleleafsnation]

The company is alive by selling to the US right now. I don't think expanding its market will hurt it in any way.

[RUEZ]

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

[sandorski]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

Eventually a 1 car for all situations will be made, but until then the vast majority of Driving needs for City Dwellers can be met with something like this. That in and of itself won't convince most to adopt it, but those who do will reap the benefits such a vehicle provides.

[Ripcat]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

Please name one car manufacturer that makes a car that satisfies all needs....

Right, there isn't one so why should this company be any different?

[Wally_Sconce]

Ripcat Ripcat:

RUEZ RUEZ:

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

Please name one car manufacturer that makes a car that satisfies all needs....

Right, there isn't one so why should this company be any different?

minivans, but they aren't cool enough for the young folk

[Ripcat]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Ripcat Ripcat:

RUEZ RUEZ:

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

Please name one car manufacturer that makes a car that satisfies all needs....

Right, there isn't one so why should this company be any different?

minivans, but they aren't cool enough for the young folk

Wow, nice try, but you can't state a vehicle type and then immediately state how they do NOT meet someones needs...

Minivans also do not meet the needs of someone that wants a compact car with excellent fuel milage for short trip urban commuting and easy parallel parking....

[RUEZ]

Ripcat Ripcat:

RUEZ RUEZ:

mapleleafsnation mapleleafsnation:

I see a lot of conservatives saying 'nobody wants that'.

What the heck?

Conservatives (not historically but now) defend a free market.

But are they saying 'don't allow them to sell that'? I say nobody would want it either, but if they make it road worthy and it can keep up with the pace of traffic I have no problems with them selling it. I think it would be a better idea to develop a car that could satisfy all needs rather than one car for city driving and another for longer trips.

Please name one car manufacturer that makes a car that satisfies all needs....

Right, there isn't one so why should this company be any different?

GM. They make the Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon. Four cylinder motor which is as good on fuel as my four cylinder car. You can get it in a crewcab so you can fit the whole family and it has a pickup box for cargo. See, not that hard.