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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:12 pm
 


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i'm shocked....


Dont be, it's sarcasm on the heaviest level. Harper isnt ignoring the rest of Canada either, keep that in mind.


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What a joke, this isn't anything new. Politicians have been throwing cash at Quebec for decades, get over it its not a secret. Stevie is just following a time honored tradition when it comes to greasing the squeaky wheel to a province with self-esteem issues that happens to have a shit load of MP seats that makes a difference in an election.

And all of sudden you hypocrites act like this is horrible and its up to him to stop the time honored tradition of throwing cash at Quebec, why the fuck should he so he can get labeled as anti-Quebec/Francophone ? lol Harper isnt stupid and until the system changes he has no choice.


Thats not what this is about. Its about the fact that Harper and his supporters on here screamed murder and called it vile corruption when the others did it and who now simply say "its buisness as usual".

See where the hypocracy is?


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DerbyX DerbyX:
Bodah Bodah:
What a joke, this isn't anything new. Politicians have been throwing cash at Quebec for decades, get over it its not a secret. Stevie is just following a time honored tradition when it comes to greasing the squeaky wheel to a province with self-esteem issues that happens to have a shit load of MP seats that makes a difference in an election.

And all of sudden you hypocrites act like this is horrible and its up to him to stop the time honored tradition of throwing cash at Quebec, why the fuck should he so he can get labeled as anti-Quebec/Francophone ? lol Harper isnt stupid and until the system changes he has no choice.


Thats not what this is about. Its about the fact that Harper and his supporters on here screamed murder and called it vile corruption when the others did it and who now simply say "its buisness as usual".

See where the hypocracy is?


hey... i know a weasel when i see one.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:36 pm
 


Bodah Bodah:
DerbyX DerbyX:
Bodah Bodah:
What a joke, this isn't anything new. Politicians have been throwing cash at Quebec for decades, get over it its not a secret. Stevie is just following a time honored tradition when it comes to greasing the squeaky wheel to a province with self-esteem issues that happens to have a shit load of MP seats that makes a difference in an election.

And all of sudden you hypocrites act like this is horrible and its up to him to stop the time honored tradition of throwing cash at Quebec, why the fuck should he so he can get labeled as anti-Quebec/Francophone ? lol Harper isnt stupid and until the system changes he has no choice.


Thats not what this is about. Its about the fact that Harper and his supporters on here screamed murder and called it vile corruption when the others did it and who now simply say "its buisness as usual".

See where the hypocracy is?


hey... i know a weasel when i see one.


Whats the matter. Don't like it when your party gets held to the same standards you bitched about?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:21 pm
 


The only reason you Liberals are bitching about this is because you're not at the trough buying you're friends and voters. The longer Harper stays in power, the less patronage there will be and the more likely old crooks like Volpe and his likes will ever get back in.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:03 pm
 


ridenrain you need to see a shrink... Harper has handed out more patronage appointments in his 2 yrs minority than the libs did in 12... and he is trying to buy Quebec big time... and this is no different than the sponsorship scandal..give me a break.... does Harper put brain wash nuggets in your cornflakes? jeeze


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:20 pm
 


The Conservative government appointed a raft of Tories to federal boards, agencies and as citizenship judges yesterday. At least seven of the 11 appointments yesterday to the National Film Board, Via Rail, the CDIC, two shipping agencies, and citizenship judgeships, went to people with Tory links.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:21 pm
 


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... login=true


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:44 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v5/content/subscribe?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FRTGAM.20071208.patronage08%2FCommentStory%2FNational&ord=12438214&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true

Well it must be true. The globe and mail just repeated the same sentence as you. You've convinced me.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:06 pm
 


point here is Harper campaigned on stopping this shit... when he got to Ottawa and found out how the game is played he had to go with the flow...there isnt any party that will stop bribes and patronage...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:06 pm
 


it only looks like the tory ridings are getting more handouts.

the truth is the Tories are working hard, and the Liberals aren't.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:30 pm
 


lily lily:
ridenrain ridenrain:
The only reason you Liberals are bitching about this is because you're not at the trough buying you're friends and voters.

So why didn't you like it when the Libs were doing it?



As usual, if we look into these things a little deeper, we find reasons behind it:
As I posted this back on pp-2:

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That sure looks like a "disproportionate" amount of funding for the CPC doesn't it? Or, at least it would, if you considered the riding of Roberval-Lac-Saint-Jean to be identical in services and needs to Quebec City, or identical to Louis-Hebert, or identical to Westmount-Ville-Marie. It would be like saying the needs and services of Thunder Bay are identical to Ottawa, which are identical to Windsor. Such a pathetic comparison of funding is entirely taken out of context without observing the requirements for funding in each riding. After all, a Liberal riding could receive less funding, not because of partisanship from the federal government, but because it does not require as much funding due to the various programs there.

For instance, Conservative MP Luc Harvey in Louis-Hebert received far and away the most funding from the Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions to the tune of $69 million. But the simple fact of the matter is that the riding of Louis-Hebert is a natural candidate for economic development funding because it is Quebec City's industrial and tech epicentre. An $18 million grant was awarded to the National Optics Institute, a non-profit research lab which develops optics technology nationwide. It also granted $15 million for Jean Lesage International Airport for refurbishment in preparation for Quebec City's 400th Anniversary. While I may not agree with the wastefulness of some of these programs, they are commensurate with the programs and organizations being run there, and anybody with a cursory glance at the article should have noticed this.

Of significance, the second most funded riding in Quebec is Bloc MP Christiane Gagnon's Quebec City at $52 million. And coming up in third is Liberal MP Lucienne Robillard in Westmount-Ville-Marie at $27 million. In fact, if you read the article, it admits that "besides Harvey's riding, only two Conservative ridings ranked among the top 20 most well-funded ridings." And yet the headline screams "Tory ridings in Quebec getting more handouts".


It would make logical sense that an industrial center would recieve more money than say.. the national canoe museum, amusement parks in his riding, or even the Prime Minister's own hotel & gold course.

I guess the proof will be in the next election.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:52 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
point here is Harper campaigned on stopping this shit... when he got to Ottawa and found out how the game is played he had to go with the flow...there isnt any party that will stop bribes and patronage...


cretin campaigned on getting rid of the GST, so doo doo on you!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:54 pm
 


You're question assumes that the Liberal money and the Conservative money is being spent on the same things while that cut & paste shows that it's not.
That post shows that the money is going to larger industrial ridings, not for buy-vote projects. There's a big difference.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:02 pm
 


wasn't it the liberals that spent a million bucks on clothes hangers and electrical tape because someone called it "ART"


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