[kitty]

Brenda Brenda:

The fact that there apparently needs to be a law for baby seats? Yeah, I have a problem with that. You know why? Because it should be common sense.

I haven't heard you about my point of banning smoking completely, though. Why is that?

Common sense is not so common thats why we have laws.

Smoking should be illegal but thats not the law that was passed and not what was being discussed. If thats your point, well the i completely agree. BAN SMOKING!

[Brenda]

kitty kitty:

Brenda Brenda:

The fact that there apparently needs to be a law for baby seats? Yeah, I have a problem with that. You know why? Because it should be common sense.

I haven't heard you about my point of banning smoking completely, though. Why is that?

Common sense is not so common thats why we have laws.

Smoking should be illegal but thats not the law that was passed and not what was being discussed. If thats your point, well the i completely agree. BAN SMOKING!

That is what I said in my second post in this thread, didn't I?

[kitty]

Brenda Brenda:

kitty kitty:

Brenda Brenda:

The fact that there apparently needs to be a law for baby seats? Yeah, I have a problem with that. You know why? Because it should be common sense.

I haven't heard you about my point of banning smoking completely, though. Why is that?

Common sense is not so common thats why we have laws.

Smoking should be illegal but thats not the law that was passed and not what was being discussed. If thats your point, well the i completely agree. BAN SMOKING!

That is what I said in my second post in this thread, didn't I?

that's what this meant?

Brenda Brenda:

You know what I find so weird about it? If smoking is THAT dangerous, that you have to install a taskforce to make sure people don't smoke... WTH can everybody buy a pack of cigarettes, EVERYWHERE???

Oh, I know! If you ban selling smokes, a lot of companies go broke, and what about the government? They don't collect taxes then...

(Yes, Sasq, I was aware of that)

sorry, i did not understand that all, maybe its just me.

[Brenda]

[newfette]

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

[Brenda]

newfette newfette:

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

Taking your child on a walk on a busy sidewalk, with the risk of getting hurt isn't illegal, is it? Taking your child skiing, with the risk of it falling and break something is not illegal, is it?

[RUEZ]

Brenda Brenda:

newfette newfette:

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

Taking your child on a walk on a busy sidewalk, with the risk of getting hurt isn't illegal, is it? Taking your child skiing, with the risk of it falling and break something is not illegal, is it?

I think you have to be realistic about the risks you're willing to take with your child.

[newfette]

but by doing that you arent directlly effecting their well being

smoking in a confined space with them you are

[Brenda]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

newfette newfette:

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

Taking your child on a walk on a busy sidewalk, with the risk of getting hurt isn't illegal, is it? Taking your child skiing, with the risk of it falling and break something is not illegal, is it?

I think you have to be realistic about the risks you're will to take with your child.

Of course! And not smoking in a car should be the first CHOICE any parent should make.

[newfette]

but sadly not all parents are fit parents

[Brenda]

newfette newfette:

but by doing that you arent directlly effecting their well being

smoking in a confined space with them you are

Sorry? Of course you are directly effecting their wellbeing. You are directly effecting their wellbeing with everything you do, every thing you feed them, and every time you take them to MacDonalds.

[Brenda]

newfette newfette:

but sadly not all parents are fit parents

So basicly, we should have a parenting course before we can become parents, right?

[RUEZ]

Brenda Brenda:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

newfette newfette:

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

Taking your child on a walk on a busy sidewalk, with the risk of getting hurt isn't illegal, is it? Taking your child skiing, with the risk of it falling and break something is not illegal, is it?

I think you have to be realistic about the risks you're will to take with your child.

Of course! And not smoking in a car should be the first CHOICE any parent should make.

The problem is it's not the parents choice. It's for the welfare of the child and when that child cannot stand up for itself the government must do it.

[Brenda]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

newfette newfette:

Brenda Brenda:

No, it isn't. Because driving drunk is a crime. You cannot compare drinking to smoking, that makes no sense at all.

putting the life of a child at risk isn't illeagal??

Taking your child on a walk on a busy sidewalk, with the risk of getting hurt isn't illegal, is it? Taking your child skiing, with the risk of it falling and break something is not illegal, is it?

I think you have to be realistic about the risks you're will to take with your child.

Of course! And not smoking in a car should be the first CHOICE any parent should make.

The problem is it's not the parents choice. It's for the welfare of the child and when that child cannot stand up for itself the government must do it.

It is the parents choice to become parents.

What you are saying, is that if parents are smoking with kids, they are unfit parents. So we fine them. The poor cannot pay the fine, so they end up in jail, and the kids in the system.

The wealthy pay the fines, smoke some more in front of their kids, and nothing changes.

I never said smoking in front of kids is a good thing, I just don't think the government should butt in if they themselves will not take responsibility for selling the stuff (and collect the taxes) for it anyway.

[newfette]

and franckly i think parents rely on that too much too

i HATE that my neice knows that tuesday is mcdonalds day.. that she was eating that crap since she was about two


I'm not a parent. thankfully I dont have to make decisions that effect other people's lives that much. but without starting somewhere things wouldn't be illegal at all.

do you think that when cars were first put on the road that it was always illegala to not drink and drive. people then probably though the same way that you do about smoking in a car. and while yes i understand that alcohol effect a person much differently then smoking does i think its just as smart.

not only is it a distraction while you are driving (which is why it is illegal
to drive and talk on a cell phone here in newfoundland) but you are also effecting your childrens health.
and while a smart parent know not to do it. not everyone is a smart enough to make that choice on their own.. and it just takes a few bad apples to spoil it for everyone.