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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:58 am
Brenda Brenda: Church and state should be separated. Now it isn't. And I don't agree with that. But one of the fundamentals of the Western world is the freedom to practice your religion.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:00 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: Brenda Brenda: Church and state should be separated. Now it isn't. And I don't agree with that. But one of the fundamentals of the Western world is the freedom to practice your religion.
Sure, so is it in Iraq or Saoudi Arabia.
Freedom to practise your religion is fine, in your own home, in your own time. Not in the time you get paid to do your job.
Laws are beyond your freedom to whatever. They are here to protect us all, and should apply to us all.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:03 pm
Brenda Brenda: RUEZ RUEZ: Brenda Brenda: Church and state should be separated. Now it isn't. And I don't agree with that. But one of the fundamentals of the Western world is the freedom to practice your religion. Sure, so is it in Iraq or Saoudi Arabia. Freedom to practise your religion is fine, in your own home, in your own time. Not in the time you get paid to do your job. Who made that rule?
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:07 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:08 pm
Brenda Brenda: Laws are beyond your freedom to whatever. They are here to protect us all, and should apply to us all. Skirt length of airline employees is definately not a law, nor is there any reason to presume the skirt rule exists to protect anyone.
This "church and state" discussion is kind of silly considering the issue is airline policy, not government policy.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:11 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: Brenda Brenda: Laws are beyond your freedom to whatever. They are here to protect us all, and should apply to us all. Skirt length of airline employees is definately not a law, nor is there any reason to presume the skirt rule exists to protect anyone.
euhmmm, we talked about freedom of religion here, and RCMP officers with Turbans on, and Sikhs on bikes without helmets. Don't twist my words, BN.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:13 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: This "church and state" discussion is kind of silly considering the issue is airline policy, not government policy.
No, it wasn't anymore, BN, as I asked if it was a government company or not, when RUEZ said, she could probably win this.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:15 pm
Brenda Brenda: Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: Brenda Brenda: Laws are beyond your freedom to whatever. They are here to protect us all, and should apply to us all. Skirt length of airline employees is definately not a law, nor is there any reason to presume the skirt rule exists to protect anyone. euhmmm, we talked about freedom of religion here, and RCMP officers with Turbans on, and Sikhs on bikes without helmets. Don't twist my words, BN. No, I'm just pointing out that whoever compared this to these examples of the government changing laws to suit religion shouldn't have done so. It's not comparable.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:16 pm
What's so wrong with wearing a longer skirt? If it doesn't damage the company's reputation, then what harm has it done.
Can you people not respect other people's beliefs.
All the woman believes in is modesty, and you're condemning her for that? Modesty is not wrong. If there is anything wrong here, it is the intolerant behaviour of fellow Canadians.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:20 pm
Anonymous Anonymous: What's so wrong with wearing a longer skirt? If it doesn't damage the company's reputation, then what harm has it done. Can you people not respect other people's beliefs. All the woman believes in is modesty, and you're condemning her for that? Modesty is not wrong. If there is anything wrong here, it is the intolerant behaviour of fellow Canadians.
Then why didn't she just ask her empoyer for a longer skirt? He has every right to not give her one though. Why should everything and everybody adjust to someones believes or prudeness?
Why can't she just live with it? She wanted to work there, I think she did her research before she applied for a job. She should have known about the companies uniforms.
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sasquatch2
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:15 pm
My take is that she was largely intent on creating a fuss.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:27 pm
Brenda Brenda: Why should everything and everybody adjust to someones believes or prudeness? Everything and everybody are not being asked to adjust. One skirt on one person is the issue.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:40 pm
Blue_Nose Blue_Nose: Brenda Brenda: Why should everything and everybody adjust to someones believes or prudeness? Everything and everybody are not being asked to adjust. One skirt on one person is the issue. I disagree.
Her reason is the issue.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:51 pm
Brenda Brenda: Her reason is the issue. Who cares what her reason is? The only issue is whether there's enough of a reason to not allow longer skirts. You and I are in no way affected by whether or not she wears a skirt or a toga to work, so this shouldn't be a significant issue to anyone but her.
If there's a valid reason, so be it, she's out of luck. Perhaps they feel ankle-length skirts inhibit her ability to do her job in some way. "Rules are rules" is a dumb reason for the rule, though.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:52 pm
I care what her reason is. And many with me, thank you very much.
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