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sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

hurley_108

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Now you're just being stupid.

You are the guy guy that thinks a Jökulhlaups is a jack rabbit with deer antlers.

I noticed you never addressed how Greenland could possibly cause a Heinrich event without a
Jökulhlaups. But that is just another inconvenient truth.

I noticed you have yet to show me where anyone on this board has ever offered up the hockey stick as proof of warming.

Put up or shut up.

[hurley_108]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Numure Numure:

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The theory. The none saline water from the Arctic Icecpas melting could disrupt the golf stream, at that making all of North America and Europe alot colder.

But we wouldn't get colder if the Gulf Stream shut down because global warming is supposed to make everything heat up.

Now you're just being stupid.

Exactly. That's because AGW is stupid.

No, just beyond your capacity to understand.

[PluggyRug]

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BartSimpson BartSimpson:

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The theory. The none saline water from the Arctic Icecaps melting could disrupt the golf stream, at that making all of North America and Europe alto colder.

But we wouldn't get colder if the Gulf Stream shut down because global warming is supposed to make everything heat up.

I know you're smarter then that Bart.

''Global Warming'' is melting the Icecaps, the none saline water dumped into the atlantic then ''could be'' disrupting the Golf Stream that is then affecting the climate of North America and Europe.

Anyways, just goes to show you it isnt as simple as saying its because of CO2 emissions. Our climate is so complicated and interlinked with different factors that no one can pretend to know what is really happening.

Always remember everything is still a theory right now. As no one can prove their theory to be the ''right'' one.

So if the melting icecaps disrupted the gulf stream and cooled off the northern Atlantic, the icecaps would then freeze back. Sort of a cyclic event.

[sasquatch2]

Zipperfish

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Well that's your opinion. Like Brenda's and Samsquanch's it's not founded on science--but that's OK. Everyone is entitled to thier opinions. I'm just going to cast my lot with the scientists, because when it comes to explaining nature, they tend to be right more than others.

It means our opinions are not founded on science and not your baseless dogma.

What you call scientists are merely propagandists.

Say Jökulhlaups.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

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The theory. The none saline water from the Arctic Icecpas melting could disrupt the golf stream, at that making all of North America and Europe alot colder.

But we wouldn't get colder if the Gulf Stream shut down because global warming is supposed to make everything heat up.

Now you're just being stupid.

Exactly. That's because AGW is stupid.

That sounds like an argument my four year old would come up with. I await your next next inspirational and eloquent argument against anthrpogenic climate change: "Oh yeah? Well, you stink like poo!"

[sasquatch2]

Hurley_108

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I noticed you have yet to show me where anyone on this board has ever offered up the hockey stick as proof of warming.

Are you suffering from aphasia or did your mother drop you?

[hurley_108]

sasquatch2 sasquatch2:

Hurley_108

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I noticed you have yet to show me where anyone on this board has ever offered up the hockey stick as proof of warming.

Are you suffering from aphasia or did your mother drop you?

Aphasia:

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Aphasia (or aphemia) is a loss of the ability to produce and/or comprehend language, due to injury to brain areas specialized for these functions. It is not a result of deficits in sensory, intellect, or psychiatric functioning. (Brookshire, 1992; Goodglass 1993) It is also not muscle weakness or a cognitive disorder.

Depending on the area and extent of the damage, someone suffering from aphasia may be able to speak but not write, or vice versa, or display any of a wide variety of other deficiencies in language comprehension and production, such as being able to sing but not speak. Aphasia may co-occur with speech disorders such as dysarthria or apraxia of speech, which also result from brain damage.

Where are you going with this?

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

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The theory. The none saline water from the Arctic Icecpas melting could disrupt the golf stream, at that making all of North America and Europe alot colder.

But we wouldn't get colder if the Gulf Stream shut down because global warming is supposed to make everything heat up.

Now you're just being stupid.

Exactly. That's because AGW is stupid.

That sounds like an argument my four year old would come up with. I await your next next inspirational and eloquent argument against anthrpogenic climate change: "Oh yeah? Well, you stink like poo!"

Well, my dear little friend.

According to you dear people the polar bears will starve because the ice is going to melt. But if the ice melts your theory is that the Gulf Stream will catastrophically shut down - which would cause the ice to freeze even thicker thereby resolving that polar bear issue. Oh, but wait, wouldn't a self-correcting climate mess up all those grandiose projections of Greenland and Antarctica melting and inundating the world?

What is truly amazing here is that you dear folks utterly refuse to see the contradictions inherent in your conflicting warnings about the end times.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Numure Numure:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/thc/

The theory. The none saline water from the Arctic Icecpas melting could disrupt the golf stream, at that making all of North America and Europe alot colder.

But we wouldn't get colder if the Gulf Stream shut down because global warming is supposed to make everything heat up.

Now you're just being stupid.

Exactly. That's because AGW is stupid.

That sounds like an argument my four year old would come up with. I await your next next inspirational and eloquent argument against anthrpogenic climate change: "Oh yeah? Well, you stink like poo!"

Well, my dear little friend.

According to you dear people the polar bears will starve because the ice is going to melt. But if the ice melts your theory is that the Gulf Stream will catastrophically shut down - which would cause the ice to freeze even thicker thereby resolving that polar bear issue. Oh, but wait, wouldn't a self-correcting climate mess up all those grandiose projections of Greenland and Antarctica melting and inundating the world?

What is truly amazing here is that you dear folks utterly refuse to see the contradictions inherent in your conflicting warnings about the end times.

I've never said anything about the end times. I've just said that I think the climate is getting warmer and anthrpogenic emissions of CO2 are a significant contributor to it. Again, when the vast majority of scientists conducting relevant research in the area tell me something, I'm inclined to believe it. But even so, I have tried to dillgently research the matter. I still have serious reservations about the theory itself.

On the other hand, you'd have us believe that these thousands of scientists are all wrong even though, based on the content of your posts, you have not researched the issue at all.

[sasquatch2]

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thousands of scientists

You mean Hansen and Mann...thats two (2) ...fruitfly counters and UN beaurocrats don't count.

[Numure]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

So if the melting icecaps disrupted the gulf stream and cooled off the northern Atlantic, the icecaps would then freeze back. Sort of a cyclic event.

That is what I think it is. Only a cycle of events that then result back to status quo. But then again, I'm no expert in the matter. I don't think anyone is, at that. In all honesty, I don't care much. Just as long as what ever happens, happens long after I'm dead.

[sasquatch2]

Nurture

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That is what I think it is. Only a cycle of events that then result back to status quo. But then again, I'm no expert in the matter. I don't think anyone is, at that. In all honesty, I don't care much. Just as long as what ever happens, happens long after I'm dead.

Actually there is a very large pool of knowledge on these matters. Currently all I see is a shallow, distorted notion of these things. The Goron is not an accurate source of enlightenment.

Rest assured that the scenario the alarmists refer to---a shutdown on the Gulf Stream---will not occur in your lifetime or mine----regardless any optimistic notion of longevity. The necessary conditions will not occur until the middle or late stages of the NEXT ice age.

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They had a food and fuel shortage in the arctic this spring because the ice in hudsons bay froze early.

Well,Right now we have at least 3 barges froze in the Hudsons bay,one didnt even get to leave Churchill,another is froze cock stiff in the bay at Baker lake.So now we have to build ice roads to them to get our supplies. So much for the ice melting early theory of the revs.

There will be another fuel shortage,jet A and B have been virtually impossible to get in the arctic unless its an emergency this year because of the early freeze.

[BartSimpson]

And it's an early freeze because of global warming.

[Blue_Nose]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

And it's an early freeze because of global warming.

Who actually made this claim? Only you. You're making fun of yourself.

Jesus Christ.