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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:52 pm
 


U.S. Navy releases smoking gun video of Iran removing unexploded limpet mine from oil tanker’s hull



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If there were any doubts Iran is responsible for the attacks on two oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, a new report should put those doubts to rest. The United States has video of Iran removing unexploded mines from the side of one of the ships that was hit.

The Iranian ship can be seen pulling alongside one of the tankers and removing what appears to be a limpet mine while believing they were not being watched. The video above, released by the United States Navy, shows the actions by the Iranians. The image below released by CentCom shows two areas, one where an exploded mine did damage and the other of a mine that apparently didn’t detonate.

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There is little Iran can do or say now other than pretend like it wasn’t them in the video or that the video itself was doctored.

As my colleague noted earlier, Iran is using rumors of war as a way to draw international sympathy and bring world leaders to the negotiating table where they can try to shift sentiment to blame the United States. Iran is in dire straits with their economic situation but they have no intentions of backing down on their nuclear ambitions despite protestations against them...

They are playing with fire in more ways than one. As much as I’m against war of any kind, my inclinations to avoid any intervention by the United States military has a line drawn at the point of attacks on us or our allies. That’s what this is. They are trying to destabilize the world oil market and harm their competitors through terrorism. Perhaps they believe they can pressure the United States to lift sanctions. Maybe they think this is a way to get the world to force the United States to let them export their oil. At this point, their acts of desperation seem to be unprecedented, even for a regime that likes operating in the shadows and using proxies instead of getting their own hands dirty.

The increased United States presence in the Gulf region following the defection of Iranian Brigadier General Ali Nasiri seems to have forced Iran to change their plans. If they were hoping a proxy war alone would be enough to draw the United States into a mistake, Nasiri’s defection and the subsequent increase in our presence there changed those plans.

Acts of terrorism like this are unacceptable alternatives. They need to simply back down and come to the table with their nuclear ambitions completely abolished. At this point, it’s clear they cannot handle even monitored access to nuclear materials in any form or fashion.

The Iranian government and military are absolute cowards for going after civilians at sea. Moreover, destabilizing the oil market harms billions of people worldwide. Their shame is incalculable. At least it should be.


https://noqreport.com/2019/06/13/u-s-na ... kers-hull/


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:55 pm
 


If removing an explosive is proof that the people removing it put it there then the British UXB teams must be responsible for all those German bombs they find all over the UK.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:56 pm
 


Keep in mind I am not saying that Iran did not do this...just that the 'evidence' that they did it is not terribly convincing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:06 pm
 


peck420 peck420:
Thanos Thanos:
Won't be the first or the last time that poor dupes ended up dying in order to increase some putrid shareholder's return on investment. It's part of the human condition.

All known life consumes until consumption = death. Adaption or extinction from there, the universe cares not.

Why we continue to pretend that we are 'different' is beyond me.


All that happens when one believes in the delusion of progress is disappointment when finding out it's just another fantasy.

all the lies we've been told,
all the lives that the people
ruling from their castles
have burned

outside i see change
but inside we're the same
as we ever were


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:29 pm
 


Imagine a species of animals where there is no "survival of the fittest" or no "only the strong survive". Imagine a species where the weak and stupid are not killed off before they procreate. In the past, any species in this situation has gone extinct.

Except for us, even though there hasn't been any "position evolution" in a while. We're not evolving, we're devolving. The only natural selection and favourable characteristics now are if the girl looks good in torn jeans and if the guy is any good at texting.

On the plus side, we'll probably go extinct in a couple of hundred years.


NOTE: Just found out that "devolving" is a real word. 8O


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:33 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If removing an explosive is proof that the people removing it put it there then the British UXB teams must be responsible for all those German bombs they find all over the UK.


Just guessing but I think what he's suggesting is what they took was the dud (otherwise known as "evidence) and they got there before they expected to be seen (otherwise known as "caught.")


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:08 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If removing an explosive is proof that the people removing it put it there then the British UXB teams must be responsible for all those German bombs they find all over the UK.


At the risk of sounding like John Bolton, the Brits weren’t trying to conceal German bombing of the UK whereas Iran, if guilty, would presumably be most anxious to prevent incontrovertible evidence falling into the wrong hands. The hawks down south have so discredited themselves that it’s hard to believe them even when the evidence does seem to support one of their claims.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:56 am
 


It would not surprise me if it were the Saudis doing this. Their current ruler is an aggressive nut and they stand to benefit from it.


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
It would not surprise me if it were the Saudis doing this. Their current ruler is an aggressive nut and they stand to benefit from it.

That’s entirely possible since they’re already fighting a proxy war against Iran in Yemen.


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
It would not surprise me if it were the Saudis doing this. Their current ruler is an aggressive nut and they stand to benefit from it.


Can’t see them being able to organize it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:48 am
 


Wouldn't surprise me if it was Iran - since they went to all that trouble to hide the bomb evidence.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:18 am
 


They don't want us to know it was the Russians. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:30 am
 


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They don't want us to know it was the Russians. :wink:


It may very well be. The Russians are a staunch ally of Iran, and supply them with military hardware. Putin may be more diabolical than anyone thinks, even though his country can ill afford to help wage a war. Personally, I think the USA should attack and give Iran a big, bloody nose, then see what the Russian reaction will be, possibly forcing their hand.

Could be an eye-opener all around.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:24 pm
 


I was reading an interesting one this morning about how some hacker group attempted sabotage on Saudi oil fields and lately it's been scanning the American electric grid.

At first everybody immediately thought Iran but it turned out to be Russians.

I'll post it on the news page later.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:23 pm
 


Sunnyways Sunnyways:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
It would not surprise me if it were the Saudis doing this. Their current ruler is an aggressive nut and they stand to benefit from it.


Can’t see them being able to organize it.


Why not? They were cunning enough to have their filthy hands all over Sept 11, 2001, and got away with it.


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