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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:20 pm
 


Sunnyways Sunnyways:
Like the Cultural Revolution and other horrific catastrophes, China’s abuse of the Uighurs will take decades to document in any detail.


China is hoping there will be no one left to document anything.


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We believe in freedom of religion*

*unless that religion is not Christianity, then you're a godless heathen that deserves death unless you convert.


Speak for yourself. Not a big fan of it myself.


Sure you do. Because it isn't Freedom of Religion unless you're also free to not participate in religion.

Seriously, unless everyone has the right to act according to their own conscience then no one can be free.


In the Canadian constitution, we already have freedom of conscience, of thought, of belief. What does religion add to it? Isn't religion a belief? Why does it need a special label? As far as I'm concerned it's just a right to wear funny hats--burqua, turban, yamulke, colander.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:33 pm
 


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I do have to admit China is looking a lot more stable than the US these days.


And its more of a natural alliance for us, specially after we have been back stabbed and bullied by the US since the 80s.


Yes and no. Yes, the Americans have shown themselves to be unreliable allies - I don’t think there’s any other kind - and Afghanistan’s problems will never be solved without the participation of regional powers like Russia, Iran and Pakistan, Mr. Pompeo. Furthermore, it is true that China has made significant recent contributions to Pakistan’s development. However, I would counsel caution on any Pakistani alliance with the Arabs or Chinese. Their attitude to South Asians of any religion is well documented and runs deep. They despise you. Imagine a South Asian CEO of a large company in the People's Republic. That actually happens on the other side of the world, in America. So deal with the countries closest to you first because they will never lose interest in the region but have no illusions about them.


Its all politics man, just like the west turns a blind eye to China for all its human rights violations, freedom of speech, communism etc etc and continues to trade and deal with them, so for the moment so are we. And the new govt is reviewing all the deals and contracts the previous govts have made with China and China has said it has no issues if we want to renegotiate them.

Its I scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. China gets access to our southern port of Gawadar via a direct land link through our Northern border with it and it cuts down shipping time and costs massively for its exports and imports. In return China invests heavily in Pakistan, win win situation for all.

Anyways Pompeos meeting went down pretty well, surprisingly there was no sabre rattling at all so we didn't have to act tough back, he offered to reset the Pakistani American relations and start on a clean slate and we accepted. Think both of us were just gauging each other out.

But I think he must have gotten a few clear messages, earlier any American diplomatic team was given a kings welcome, red carpets and all, with lavish lunches and all in our Palace like Prime Minister house Today just a protocol officer from the foreign ministry was there to receive the American delegation. Then taken to the foreign ministry in a sparse small meeting room where the talks too place. And no one went to see them off at the airport.

Only clip of the meeting I could find that you would understand so here it is




P.S:Earlier the way meetings went was they would meet the PM first and then meet the Army chief separately at the GHQ. Which gave rise to talks that the military is independent of the civilian leadership, but today the FM, COAS ( Cheif of Army Staff ) and then later the Prime Minister joined in, so it was just one meeting where everyone was present, signalling to the Americans this time round the civil and military leadership is on the same page. And this is not the kind of Pakistan you are use to dealing with in the past.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:47 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Pakistan

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The constitution of Pakistan establishes Islam as the state religion


Yes it does, the whole concept of this formation of this country was that after the British leave the Muslim minority in a Hindu state would not be treated fairly and have its right suppressed in a unified India.

Surprisingly our founding father Jinnah was totally for a unified and free India for the longest time but as things got clearer that the British will leave soon, the treatment of Muslims in British India started to get pretty bad, before he was convinced, us muslim would not be safe in a unified India and there was dire need for a separate country for Muslims.

So it shouldn't come as any surprise that a country founded for Muslims has Islam as its state religion.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:24 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
llama66 llama66:
We believe in freedom of religion*

*unless that religion is not Christianity, then you're a godless heathen that deserves death unless you convert.


Speak for yourself. Not a big fan of it myself.


Sure you do. Because it isn't Freedom of Religion unless you're also free to not participate in religion.

Seriously, unless everyone has the right to act according to their own conscience then no one can be free.

+5. I’m totally of the the “I don’t agree with what you are saying, but I’ll die to defend your right to say it” school of thought.


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A whole thread regarding Pakistan was opened up and now almost about to finish...

Lesson should be learnt: Never take long breaks from Canadaka.net

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Pakistan is just getting independent, thats all I can say on this. Americans are not used to of that.

Russians --- not good

Iranians --- not good

Chinese ---- not good

Turkiye ---- not good

Pakistan --- not good.


Is Mr. Trump trying to form a powerful bloc of these above mentioned countries who are connected with each other through land/borders?

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Is Mr. Trump trying to form a powerful bloc of these above mentioned countries who are connected with each other through land/borders?

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On the other hand, if it's an existing problem why finance it?


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Fighter Fighter:
Is Mr. Trump trying to form a powerful bloc of these above mentioned countries who are connected with each other through land/borders?

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On the other hand, if it's an existing problem why finance it?


Yeah. I also we hope don't go to IMF....I think that's why Khan has started austerity drive. Not to mention efforts to bring back looted wealth.

PM House gives glimpse of ultra-luxury vehicles up for auction

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/09/05/video-pm-house-gives-glimpse-of-ultra-luxury-vehicles-up-for-auction/



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:17 am
 


There is a saying on First Nations reserves; "The Chief's driveway is always paved". The rest of the Reserve may be dirt road, but the Chief always takes care of himself first.

Looks like Pakistan's Presidents did too. ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:23 am
 


Just because something surfaces on news, doesn't mean that's the only issue...Americans are not happy with Pakistan for allowing Chinese to have footprints in Arabian sea, helping Chinese in bypassing Malacca straits.

China Pakistan Economic Corridor = CPEC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:27 am
 


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There is a saying on First Nations reserves; "The Chief's driveway is always paved". The rest of the Reserve may be dirt road, but the Chief always takes care of himself first.

Looks like Pakistan's Presidents did too. ;)


Sorry, but I really didn't get it :)

Excuse me for my lack of knowledge and English language/comprehending skills


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:31 am
 


Fighter Fighter:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
There is a saying on First Nations reserves; "The Chief's driveway is always paved". The rest of the Reserve may be dirt road, but the Chief always takes care of himself first.

Looks like Pakistan's Presidents did too. ;)


Sorry, but I really didn't get it :)

Excuse me for my lack of knowledge and English language/comprehending skills


That video, showing all the luxury cars up for auction. Pakistan's Presidents took care of themselves first, by buying lots of expensive cars.

How many cars can a guy be chauffeured around in at one time? ;)


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Fighter Fighter:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
There is a saying on First Nations reserves; "The Chief's driveway is always paved". The rest of the Reserve may be dirt road, but the Chief always takes care of himself first.

Looks like Pakistan's Presidents did too. ;)


Sorry, but I really didn't get it :)

Excuse me for my lack of knowledge and English language/comprehending skills


That video, showing all the luxury cars up for auction. Pakistan's Presidents took care of themselves first, by buying lots of expensive cars.

How many cars can a guy be chauffeured around in at one time? ;)


:lol:

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Seriously....I hate these status quo politicians...In developing world, these status quo politicians think they own everyone, living like a king while poor/middle class is getting drowned further and further.

The status quo has disturbed greatly by Imran Khan and his supporters. The young people who used to not give a fuck about politics have now great interest in politics and that only happened because of Khan. He has the support of youth. I think girls still mad at him for his looks

I read somewhere that Khan once said...

"Right now, my supporters are very young but when they'll grow up and register, they'll vote me"

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:39 pm
 


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Good! Until Pakistan throws off the yoke of Islam they deserve no funding. Same for all islamic shitholes in the world.

We believe in freedom of religion.

Too bad Pakistan doesn't.
Again = shithole (Pakistan).


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:43 pm
 


Fighter Fighter:

Pakistan is just getting independent,]


So they need another 1400 years to get it right?


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