[BartSimpson]

BRAH BRAH:

If Canada didn't share a border with the United States it would have to spend billions on defence. Since we do share that border for decades all Governments have neglected their obligation to the Canadian military and NATO.

This has been part of my argument for years now.

Canada effectively punts its defense to the USA and has done so for years.

Yes, you folks are among the best friends the USA has, no doubt about it. When 9/11 happened you folks were there for us and in so many ways that this American will never forget.

But let's look at the great national contradiction that is the liberal-left in Canada today.

You folks (the liberal-left, not Brah) talk about Trump as if he was all set to invade your country right after he burns the Reichstag, kills some Mexicans, and then goes after kittens and puppies...because he's a big meanie.

And now because America elected Trump instead of Felonia von Pantsuit some of you have gone so far as to consider the USA your enemy.

Let's accept for a moment that this proposal is true, that DJT really is Hitler reborn and he's going to roll north and conquer and subjugate Canada because he's got nothing better to do.

What do the libs plan to do about it?

Fuck all.

That's what.

You hypocrites aren't going to put one more soldier in uniform, you're not going to buy one more fighter, and you sure as shit aren't going to put another hull in the water.

Canada right now is behind both Spain and Poland in military strength ranking in NATO.

And fucking Poland doesn't even need a blue water navy.

By 2024 the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria are on track to outpace Canada in military strength.

So how do you leftist hypocrites reconcile this view that Trump is Hitler but you idiotically trust him to defend your country in a pinch all while posturing as if he's your enemy?

FFS isn't it time to build a military that can handle the defense of Canada?

You can't even stop our fucking border cops from fucking with your fisherman in Canadian waters.

So how in fuck do you propose to stop Donald J. Hitler?

[llama66]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BRAH BRAH:

If Canada didn't share a border with the United States it would have to spend billions on defence. Since we do share that border for decades all Governments have neglected their obligation to the Canadian military and NATO.

This has been part of my argument for years now.

Canada effectively punts its defense to the USA and has done so for years.

Yes, you folks are among the best friends the USA has, no doubt about it. When 9/11 happened you folks were there for us and in so many ways that this American will never forget.

But let's look at the great national contradiction that is the liberal-left in Canada today.

You folks (the liberal-left, not Brah) talk about Trump as if he was all set to invade your country right after he burns the Reichstag, kills some Mexicans, and then goes after kittens and puppies...because he's a big meanie.

And now because America elected Trump instead of Felonia von Pantsuit some of you have gone so far as to consider the USA your enemy.

Let's accept for a moment that this proposal is true, that DJT really is Hitler reborn and he's going to roll north and conquer and subjugate Canada because he's got nothing better to do.

What do the libs plan to do about it?

Fuck all.

That's what.

You hypocrites aren't going to put one more soldier in uniform, you're not going to buy one more fighter, and you sure as shit aren't going to put another hull in the water.

Canada right now is behind both Spain and Poland in military strength ranking in NATO.

And fucking Poland doesn't even need a blue water navy.

By 2024 the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria are on track to outpace Canada in military strength.

So how do you leftist hypocrites reconcile this view that Trump is Hitler but you idiotically trust him to defend your country in a pinch all while posturing as if he's your enemy?

FFS isn't it time to build a military that can handle the defense of Canada?

You can't even stop our fucking border cops from fucking with your fisherman in Canadian waters.

So how in fuck do you propose to stop Donald J. Hitler?

This post angers me, but it also on point. So yes, it is fucking time for us to get our own military.

[Thanos]

As freak-bitch Ann Coulter is so fond of reminding us, the US could crush us to death simply by rolling over the wrong way in it's sleep. Aside from developing a nuclear deterrent, which simply won't be allowed to happen by the US (or Russia) even if all the Canadian parties agreed to the idea, there is literally nothing at all we could do to stop an American conquest of our country. We aren't Iraqis or Vietnamese, so there's no reason at all to believe we have either the will or the ability to engage in a decades-long resistance. This fighting-from-the-forests idea is a pure simpleton's fantasy.

This isn't to say we shouldn't upgrade and maintain our forces better. We should, and it's a national disgrace that we haven't. But even if we had kept it at a 1950's or 60's level of expenditure it still wouldn't be enough to even dent an American attack. Think Denmark or Czechoslovakia or Holland in World War Two. The resistance by those countries to the German invasions was quite literally futile, with the Danes and Czechs wisely laying down arms immediately just to prevent pointless casualties. This is the exact same position Canada is in right now with the United States (or Russia) - we don't have the population or fiscal resources to ward off an invasion so it would be a waste of money and effort to even plan for such an eventuality. They're too big and we're too small and nothing will change that, ever.

I would ask one question of the MAGA brigade though. If Russia are your "friends" now then why do you need the rest of NATO to dramatically increase their spending so suddenly? Got some plan in the works at Dumbfuck Dennison HQ that the rest of us are going to get dragged into against our will? Iran or China suddenly in your sights for maximum aggression and you expect us to unquestioningly follow along with it? Or is this all just for the cheap thrill of watching Trumpy be as rude and ignorant on the world stage as he possibly can simply because you find his insults and taunts to be entertaining? I suspect the latter, with no more thought going into this from his cultist followers than there has been in any other bit of stupidity and viciousness and boorishness he's done.

[BartSimpson]

Canada used to have nukes and the US (under DJT at least) would not object to Canada having them again.

[Thanos]

American nukes in Genie missiles carried by Voodoo interceptors, all of which became obsolete when the Soviets got rid of most of their vulnerable bomber forces and concentrated much more on land- and submarine-based ballistic missiles. There's no need at all to return to that expired battle plan.

And, once again since it's gone unanswered, if the Russians are such good guys now then why do we need to ramp up military spending at all? Have the odds of the Chinese sending a battle-fleet undetected across 7000 miles of Pacific Ocean so they can invade Port Alberni suddenly much greater now than in the preceding half-century?

[peck420]

Canada has never owned a single nuclear weapon.

We have owned the launch systems...and even the missiles the warhead would go into, but we have never owned the nuclear weapon.

And no, Trumptard would only find it acceptable if Canada bought US nuclear weapons. He would shit a brick if Canada made their own.

[BartSimpson]

peck420 peck420:

Canada has never owned a single nuclear weapon.

You either borrowed them or leased them.

[llama66]

The BAROMARC missiles were nukes

[Tricks]

Saying we should build a military to defend against an attack from a Trump government is nonsense. To match American spending we would need to spend 40% of our GDP, and it still wouldn't be a true match because America has been spending so much on it's military for 50 years. It's impossible.

[BartSimpson]

Tricks Tricks:

Saying we should build a military to defend against an attack from a Trump government is nonsense.

Thank you. Now would you tell this to Thanos and BF?

Tricks Tricks:

To match American spending we would need to spend 40% of our GDP, and it still wouldn't be a true match because America has been spending so much on it's military for 50 years. It's impossible.

The overall problem isn't that Canada should be able to match the US. Not at all.

Your overall defense posture and Table of Organization and Equipment (TOE) is so sorely lacking that you can't effectively respond to a simple border incursion in real time.

This situation renders Canada into a defacto principality of the USA and over time the border incursions will become more frequent.

As your military withers and your navy rots at the quay then the US will inevitably start patrolling your waters and airspace because you will have abdicated your defense to us.

And some day it won't be a US military unit invading your waters in the Arctic, it'll be an Exxon drilling rig. And you won't have anything to respond to it.

The Northwest Passage (if it ever opens up) will be patrolled by the US Navy and you won't be able to do much to stop it.

And let's say the Russians or someone else sets up shop on one of your Arctic islands.

Then we'll come help and oust the squatters and I can assure you that we'll set up a base and squat ourselves.

All it takes to deter this kind of nonsense is to have a presence and at least a littoral capability to patrol and secure your own territory.

Cause if you won't do it then we will. And then you have us as houseguests and after three days I'm sure you'll want us gone.

[herbie]

$1:

Canada effectively punts its defense to the USA and has done so for years.

Fuck off with that line of shit. Repeat it often enough and still only the most vapid still believe it.

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Canada effectively punts its defense to the USA and has done so for years.

Fuck off with that line of shit. Repeat it often enough and still only the most vapid still believe it.

So when we send a sub through the Northwest Passage you interdict it with...what?

And if you can't stop us then you can't stop the Russians or the Chinese. And that means we end up patrolling your waters without your permission because you won't/can't do it yourselves.

That's called a punt.

[BartSimpson]

Now build a navy that can at the very least patrol Canada's vast waters.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thank you. Now would you tell this to Thanos and BF?

I've never said any such thing. I said quite clearly that it's impossible for a small country like Canada to build any sort of military that would deter a rogue United States. It would be, again for those who don't pay attention, a complete waste of time and money. Period.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thank you. Now would you tell this to Thanos and BF?

I've never said any such thing. I said quite clearly that it's impossible for a small country like Canada to build any sort of military that would deter a rogue United States. It would be, again for those who don't pay attention, a complete waste of time and money. Period.

Then stop acting like Trump is going to attack Canada right after he 'destroys' democracy in the USA.