[BartSimpson]

Tricks Tricks:

check out that second to last line.

Good for you if you want to live your life and run your country by consensus.

Myself, I prefer this philosophy:

Charles-Guillaume Étienne Charles-Guillaume Étienne:

"One is never served so well as by oneself"

[BartSimpson]

@Tricks:

You like polls, right?

Here's one for you from today which must be right because science, right?

[ShepherdsDog]

Sure it is Spicey. What was the next question in this, 'Are the reptilians really going to invade? '

[xerxes]

$1:

Charles-Guillaume Étienne wrote:
"One is never served so well as by oneself"

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

$1:

Charles-Guillaume Étienne wrote:
"One is never served so well as by oneself"

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

John Donne

Some of us just want to be left alone.

Some people can't stand the idea of someone being left alone.

And that's where we stand this Friday night. Have a nice weekend.

Out.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

@Tricks:

You like polls, right?

Here's one for you from today which must be right because science, right?

Sorry, polling freerepublic visitors doesn't qualify for a valid poll audience.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-blo ... ts#comment

However, you did just prove my point. Lets say that America is a 50/50 split conservative and liberal. If 50% of conservatives (using your poll data) and probably about 90-95% of liberals feel that climate change is important, then we're sitting at about 70-75% of americans.


So thanks for handing me that.

[N_Fiddledog]

[Sunnyways]

So the rest of the world is out of step with our Donny. The US states and companies with any awareness of what is going on will ignore this foolish decision.

[xerxes]

[N_Fiddledog]

It makes sense that the US would be the one to reject the agreement, because Americans are required to shoulder a disproportionate share of the burden. This in spite of the fact China is responsible for the greatest share of actual emissions, yet they get a pass. Then there's India...

[N_Fiddledog]

Here's one I don't understand. Kyoto failed. Major. Even if you believe nice weather will destroy the world and people are responsible. Even if you believe that - Kyoto failed. What is it that's supposed to be so superior about this Paris agreement? Looks a lot like Kyoto to me. And as mentioned, Kyoto failed.

$1:

Remember the United Nations’ Kyoto Protocol? It landed in 1997 — amid alarming forecasts of rampant eco-disasters, rising sea levels, desertification, hell on earth — with commitments from leading nations to control their carbon emissions. And it crashed in 2012 — expired, they said.

Canada embraced Kyoto Protocol targets, deemed essential to help save the planet from environmental crises. During the first commitment period ending in 2012, Canada had signed on to carbon-emissions reductions of six-per-cent below 1990 levels. In 2012, Canada reported an emissions increase of 18-per-cent above 1990 levels. Canada got out of Kyoto in 2011.

Now let us remember the United Nations’ Paris agreement. It landed in 2015 — amid similar warnings of rampant environmental crises that surrounded Kyoto — with leading nations, including Canada, committed to tough emissions targets. On Thursday, the Paris agreement crashed as U.S. President Donald Trump, in his best policy speech so far as president, announced: “We are getting out.”

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-co ... -oblivious

[herbie]

Bawww! We have to climb the stairs, the guy in the wheelchair gets to take the elevator. It's not fair!

[N_Fiddledog]

herbie herbie:

Bawww! We have to climb the stairs, the guy in the wheelchair gets to take the elevator. It's not fair!

Are you saying China is the cripple there? Pretty crappy metaphor, I think.

You're saying America has to shackle it's economic engine and dole out billions, perhaps trillions to other nations while China and India get a step up on the American competition. This while China is the world's #1 emitter of greenhouse gas and India is not far behind.

That's stupid. If Trump agreed to that he would be stupid. It doesn't require a bad metaphor to explain it. Just that one be open to the obvious.

[N_Fiddledog]

$1:

The repercussions of President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement will be profound and positive — for the global environment, for the global economy, and especially for Canada, which stands to be one of the biggest winners of all.

The Paris accord always was a sham. Its targets were voluntary, allowing Germany, Japan, China, India and other signatories to continue their massive coal developments, and others, such as the U.K., to embark on aggressive programs to develop shale gas. But though it was a sham to which most leaders paid lip service, Paris did gull a large segment of the public into thinking the countries of the world had made some grand bargain to which they must adhere, giving politicians new justifications for taxing the public through carbon policies. Canada’s left-leaning politicians, led by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, have especially leapt at this opportunity.

With the collapse of the Paris accord there is no longer a grand bargain and politicians are no longer able to exhort their citizens to pay carbon-related levies in solidarity with the citizens of the world. For Canadians, there is now hope for an end to the ruinous policies, such as those that led to unaffordable power prices, that have led our manufacturing industries to move to America’s low-cost regions — Procter and Gamble is the latest company to leave, fleeing coal-free Ontario for the low-cost coal country of West Virginia. Trudeau will soon be feeling the heat from the Conservatives’ new leader, Andrew Scheer, who promises to abolish Trudeau’s “cash grab” carbon tax, saying it “raises the cost of everything and puts jobs at risk while doing little for the environment...”

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-co ... imate-deal

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Tricks Tricks:

check out that second to last line.

Good for you if you want to live your life and run your country by consensus.

Myself, I prefer this philosophy:

Charles-Guillaume Étienne Charles-Guillaume Étienne:

"One is never served so well as by oneself"

Sorry, I missed this, I guess you didn't see that the Donald had signed it.