[Thanos]

What did the Cylons say to the human doctor who tried to betray the Fleet in Blood & Chrome just before they killed her? "Just because you're more enlightened than the others doesn't mean we hate you any less"? BSG is usually a pretty bad example to use when it comes to enemies that are completely lacking in any mercy and have zero willingness to seek a cessation of hostilities.

[Delwin]

@Martin

I thought I just did.
Turkey is a Muslim country. Turkey is a NATO ally. Ally is the opposite of enemy.

In the war against ISIS Jordan, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, UAE, Turkey and Qatar are all allies. Ally is the opposite of enemy.

We have had Canadian Muslims serving in the military like Lt-Commander Wafa Dabbagh. She is definitely not our enemy.

http://cireport.ca/2013/01/06/2010-lt-c ... r-a-hijab/

So when you say "their enemy" which "they" are you so scared of?

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

Not really interested in your impossible hypothetical where all the Muslims in the world suddenly declare war on everyone else or your caricature that anyone who doesn't hate prejudicially like you do must be a coward.

I guess I would fight for the same side I would if the Cylons attacked Earth.

Your assertion that they have always been at war with us is of course demonstrably false but I don't really feel like illustrating all of the Muslims we have sided with in the past or the fact that Turkey is a predominantly Muslim country and a NATO ally or that "we" are a multicultural society and that Muslim Canadians are just as Canadian as you are but we wouldn't really be getting anywhere would we?

You have your prejudices and you are sticking to them. Your wrong is your right.

Demonstrably?.

Again who's side? You can't answer without some spin can you? Hypothetical if you please but just one word please, our's or there's.

[Delwin]

I'll answer your question when you frame it properly. I can't make a moral judgement without moral conditions. Exactly what scenario are you proposing?

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

I'll answer your question when you frame it properly. I can't make a moral judgement without moral conditions. Exactly what scenario are you proposing?

Not a question of morality that's just more spin. Just answer the question please, their's or our's.

[Delwin]

Well of course it is. War under what conditions?

You are asking me to pick a side in a fight without explaining what the fight is about, who started the fight and what the conditions for victory would be.

You are asking me to make a judgement and providing no input into what it is I am Judging.

I think most would agree that following Nazi orders wouldn't be justified just because you were German.

I am fully willing to answer your question. What is your question again?

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

Well of course it is. War under what conditions?

You are asking me to pick a side in a fight without explaining what the fight is about, who started the fight and what the conditions for victory would be.

You are asking me to make a judgement and providing no input into what it is I am Judging.

I think most would agree that following Nazi orders wouldn't be justified just because you were German.

I am fully willing to answer your question. What is your question again?

That's spinning so fast it's creating it's own event horizon. Just keep on avoiding. we now know where you stand.

[andyt]

Just to jump into this little lunacy, if there was all out war with Muslims, not being Muslim I would have to side with the non-Muslims. But I would do all I could to elect leaders who would not lead us into such lunacy in the first place. The Muslims are not the Borg, they don't have a hive mind. Fortunately neither are we, unlike the foamers who have all drunk the same Kool Aid.

[Delwin]

Yep.

[Thanos]

I'd like to know exactly what Jim Jones-approved brand of Kool-Aid is on the market that makes people believe the current immigration policy makes sense and that a country has no right to decide who it won't let inside it's borders.

[Delwin]

Well that's exactly what we have been doing, our immigration policy has been written and implemented by our democratically elected governments. It makes sense that it works the way we have decided it should. Not sure what you mean.

[Thanos]

The death of a culture and civilization by democratic mandate is death all the same. Mass suicide, which you brought up, is nothing to celebrate just because it's at the hands of elected politicians.

[martin14]

Delwin Delwin:

@Martin

I thought I just did.
Turkey is a Muslim country. Turkey is a NATO ally. Ally is the opposite of enemy.

In the war against ISIS Jordan, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, UAE, Turkey and Qatar are all allies. Ally is the opposite of enemy.

We have had Canadian Muslims serving in the military like Lt-Commander Wafa Dabbagh. She is definitely not our enemy.

http://cireport.ca/2013/01/06/2010-lt-c ... r-a-hijab/

So when you say "their enemy" which "they" are you so scared of?

This is hilarious.

You can only point to the country that handles the gasoline exports for ISIS,
turning more Islamic by the day under a soon to be tyrant, and has as many
human rights violations as ISIS themselves.

A few other countries who do nothing. Please tell me, how many 'refugees'
have the countries other than Turkey taken in ?
Hows about zero for all except for Jordan.

Oh and ONE muslim woman.
I can find far more traitorous whites to Islam in 5 minutes.

But this is how all Islam is, right ?

It's all just peace and love, right ?

[BRAH]

Another 9/11 hijack scenario will probably never happen because the passengers will stop it.

[Delwin]

martin14 martin14:

This is hilarious.

You can only point to the country that handles the gasoline exports for ISIS,
turning more Islamic by the day under a soon to be tyrant, and has as many
human rights violations as ISIS themselves.

A few other countries who do nothing. Please tell me, how many 'refugees'
have the countries other than Turkey taken in ?
Hows about zero for all except for Jordan.

Oh and ONE muslim woman.
I can find far more traitorous whites to Islam in 5 minutes.

But this is how all Islam is, right ?

It's all just peace and love, right ?

I only posted what was required to disprove your assertion. You speak in absolutes so it was fairly easy.

You said

$1:

We have always been their enemy

All that is required to disprove this is to illustrate that there is one Muslim that has not been our enemy at some point in time.

There are of course hundreds of Muslims that are serving in the Canadian armed forces and thousands of Muslims from India and Algeria that fought on our side in WWII so it was quite easy to do.

That's what I meant by demonstrably false and why you should probably not speak in absolutes.

If you think you can prove that we have always been their enemy, I would certainly like to hear it.

And BTW, not taking in refugees is not evidence of anyone being our enemy.