[andyt]

You're more sanguine about it than I am. Somebody who deems Canada a second rate socialist country doesn't sound all that pro Canada to me.

[Gunnair]

fifeboy fifeboy:

andyt andyt:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I tend to agree with Bart on this folder. Work long enough at it, flash around enough cash and work on enough pols and you will get what you want! It started with Brian and before him and free trade. Unless LA starts to get more moisture, they ( and the rest of the fast growing SW USA) are going to come for our water. Do we have the balls to stop them?

We may not. Somebody like Harper would do it in a flash. Just dangle lower taxes in front of the me firsts, and bada bing. Then there will be wailing when it turns out we need the water and can't access it.

I have been hearing about the "economic advantage" of selling of whole river systems for ages. However, I don't think Stevo will be the asshole to do it. I get the feeling that he has more respect for Canadian sovereignty than that. Some of the core supporters could and the Liberals are not above it either.

After Keystone, I'm not sure why anyone thinks Harper would be jumping up and down to divert water?

Not that he can do it by himself of course. Ridiculous.

[andyt]

Because if the US would let him do it, he might go for it. Especially since Keystone got blocked. Very little opposition going to be mustered in the US for us sending them water. (What if there's a spill...Oh nos). Since his economic policy based on oil has come crashing down, maybe he'd want to replace one resource with another.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

Because if the US would let him do it, he might go for it. Especially since Keystone got blocked. Very little opposition going to be mustered in the US for us sending them water. (What if there's a spill...Oh nos). Since his economic policy based on oil has come crashing down, maybe he'd want to replace one resource with another.

The absolute power you attribute to the PM is utterly ridiculous.

[2Cdo]

Gunnair Gunnair:

andyt andyt:

Because if the US would let him do it, he might go for it. Especially since Keystone got blocked. Very little opposition going to be mustered in the US for us sending them water. (What if there's a spill...Oh nos). Since his economic policy based on oil has come crashing down, maybe he'd want to replace one resource with another.

The absolute power you attribute to the PM is utterly ridiculous.

I prefer to think of andys absolute stupidity to post his nonsense. The truly sad part is that he actually believes his drivel.

[andyt]

Gunnair Gunnair:

andyt andyt:

Because if the US would let him do it, he might go for it. Especially since Keystone got blocked. Very little opposition going to be mustered in the US for us sending them water. (What if there's a spill...Oh nos). Since his economic policy based on oil has come crashing down, maybe he'd want to replace one resource with another.

The absolute power you attribute to the PM is utterly ridiculous.

Who is there to stop him when he has a majority? The courts can't, this isn't a constitutional matter. widespread opposition could, but with some people making very dire forecasts for the Canadian economy, that could fail to materialize.

[BartSimpson]

Gunnair Gunnair:

andyt andyt:

Because if the US would let him do it, he might go for it. Especially since Keystone got blocked. Very little opposition going to be mustered in the US for us sending them water. (What if there's a spill...Oh nos). Since his economic policy based on oil has come crashing down, maybe he'd want to replace one resource with another.

The absolute power you attribute to the PM is utterly ridiculous.

He's confusing Harper with Obama. Understandable as they look alike.

[andyt]

Harper has far more power than Obama.

[Jabberwalker]

andyt andyt:

Harper has far more power than Obama.

... if all other things are equal ...

[andyt]

He has far more power to make a water deal with the US, than Barry does with Canada. As long as his caucus doesn't revolt, and those trained seals are unlikely to.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

He has far more power to make a water deal with the US, than Barry does with Canada. As long as his caucus doesn't revolt, and those trained seals are unlikely to.

Groundless hyperbole. Another ridiculous assertion.

[andyt]

not about exports, but why?

$1:

Second, this deal will give French companies Suez and Veolia, the two biggest private water operations in the world, access to run our water services for profit. Under a recent edict, the Harper government has tied federal funding of municipal water infrastructure construction or upgrading to privatization of water services. Cash-strapped municipalities can only access federal funds if they adopt a public-private partnership model, and several cities have recently put their water or wastewater services contracts up for private bids. If Suez or Veolia are successful in bidding for these contracts (and under the new deal, local governments cannot favour local bidders) and a future city council decides it wants to move back to a public system, as municipalities are doing all over the world, these corporations will be able to sue for huge compensation. Private water operators charge far higher rates than public operators and cut corners when it comes to source protection. Privatization of water services violates the essential principle that Canada's water is a public trust.

$1:

The same "investor-state" clause contained in the Canada-EU deal poses the third threat to Canada's water. The rules essentially say that if a government introduces new environmental, health or safety rules that were not in place when the foreign corporation made its investment, it has the right to compensation, which a domestic corporation does not have. For instance, an American energy company is suing Canada for $250 million in damages using a similar NAFTA rule because Quebec decided to protect its water by placing a moratorium on fracking. Moreover, transnational corporations are now claiming ownership of the actual water they require in their operations. Another American company successfully sued Ottawa for $130 million for the "water rights"; it left behind when it abandoned its pulp and paper operations in Newfoundland, leaving workers without jobs or pensions. The new deal with Europe will give large European corporations similar rights, further eroding the ability of governments to protect our fragile watersheds and ecosystems.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/maude-barl ... 22048.html

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

He has far more power to make a water deal with the US, than Barry does with Canada. As long as his caucus doesn't revolt, and those trained seals are unlikely to.

Just when I thought you couldn't write anything stupider, you prove me wrong.

[Regina]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

He has far more power to make a water deal with the US, than Barry does with Canada. As long as his caucus doesn't revolt, and those trained seals are unlikely to.

Just when I thought you couldn't write anything stupider, you prove me wrong.

You just can't teach that can you.