[fifeboy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

As I pointed out in the "Asian" grooming gang discussion, by far the greatest proportion of online groomers (which the OP is about) are white men. Young girls are lured and threatened into prostitution by men of all colors and creeds, all over the world. It's not a Muslim phenomenon.
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So whites can't be muslims according to andy.

Congratulations for exposing your ignorance, again.

You will need one of these:

[andyt]

Shhh, don't disturb his fantasy.

[andyt]

MOre ignorance here:

$1:

A 2011 study by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre looked at the 2,379 potential offenders caught grooming girls since 2008. Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

A report for the children's commissioner in 2012 found there were 1,514 perpetrators. Of these, 545 were white, 415 were Asian and 244 were black. The ethnicity of 21% of perpetrators was not recorded. Attempts to analyse the Asian figure further runs into problems. Just 35 of the 415 Asians are recorded as having Pakistani heritage and thus highly likely to be Muslim, and only five are recorded as being from a Bangladeshi background. The heritage of 366 of the Asian group is not stated in those figures.

Meanwhile, group grooming is a small part of the sexual abuse threat facing Britain's children. Some of those working in protecting children from sexual abuse worry that the wrong message is being given about who poses dangers to children from the media coverage of "Asian grooming gangs".

They say the biggest dangers are not just on the street, but online, and the totality of abuse shows far more white people are perpetrators.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/ ... abuse-race


It looks like the problem is huge in Britain. 2300 potential offenders caught in a few years, but the bigger problem is the online stuff. of course it would be in a society that can allow a young girl to be called a slag in court. Scary.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

Muslim and Sikh parents are much stricter with their girls, but there were victims from those two groups too.

I wish you'd listen a little more closely when I give you information you want to twist into whatever that is.

First of all catch up. Here's where the Muslim on Muslim claims come from.

Gangs of Asian men are grooming underage MUSLIM girls too

It went like this. The Muslim grooming gangs were becoming big news. Updated Reports from officials whose credibility could not be challenged by the political whitewashing that was happening back in the days of say 2011 were finding statistics for cases of gang grooming where 85% to over 90% involved Muslims on white British girls.

In the middle of that climate an organization called The Muslim Women's Network UK was able to publicize a report they concocted that conveniently claimed "Wait a minute. Muslim girls are being abused too".

I don't doubt it. There's every reason to believe Muslim girls get abused like hell.

You know what was missing though. The evidence in court cases, police reports and reports from social agencies revealing contrived, or organized networks of Muslim gang groomers hidden by political correctness in city council, police departments and social agencies.

Tens of thousands of recorded cases. That's what was missing. So yes Muslim girls could get abused at home, but no, it was not the same thing as the epidemic of Muslim child rape gangs perpetrating horrific abuse on non-believer women.

Now with Sikhs it was different from the now alleged Muslim abuse within their own community, but more or less the same as what was happening to white British girls. In fact did you know that one of the reasons Muslim grooming gangs became public in a way the media could not ignore was out of cases involving Muslim grooming of Sikh girls? Did you know there are Sikh chapters within the English Defence League (the EDL)? Wanna guess why?

Here's a clue?



Now as to your claim I'm an agent, of, what was it again? The Daily Mirror. You're an idiot, but thanks for my smile of the day.

[N_Fiddledog]

And as to the rest of Andy's convoluted, revisionist game of how high can I pile this BS before somebody calls me on it, I admit it would be impossible to untwist that mess into something that could be dealt with.

So best to just keep it simple, I guess.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

It's just a group mentality that needs to constantly reassure each other they are right, and doesn't deal well with other points of view. Reminds me of high school.

Wrong. Again.

It's got nothing to do with us sticking together as a group, its about our mutual hatred for anything you post.

When you are a perpetual asshole, you invoke these types of actions from people.

If it reminds you of high school, were you this much of an asshole back then too?

[stratos]

$1:

Of 940 suspects whose race could be identified, 26% were Asian, 38% were white and 32% were recorded as unknown. Asians are roughly 7% of the population.

What gets me about these numbers is that Asians make up around 7% of the population yet 26% of the victims were Asian. Seems very high in comparison. Is there something that make Asian girls more susceptible to this or were they targeted do to high desirability by the scum?

[stratos]

Unsound Unsound:

Jesus, I know that most of you aren't actually stupid, but for some reason it's hard to tell that whenever an andy post is involved.

You realize, don't you, that Andy is not actually assuming the rapist is muslim, he's pointing out the kind of reactions and assumptions that others on this site have all too often.

And yet no one had this reaction till after he posted his slimy stuff. Misrepresenting the article to illicit a set of responses is childish. Instead of actually contributing to the discussion and or letting it morph into what he thinks it will become. He does the biggest troll move and forces the issues into his own set concepts of others.

Thus we have a prime example of why Andyt's actions on this site are disruptive and most have regulated him to troll status.

[Yogi]

I never saw either of the words 'asian' or 'muslim' in the article so most of the previous 4 pages of this thread are not only immaterial to the discussion, but also nonsensical. Back to the topic of this thread I only have to say " What's the problem"?

[stratos]

Yogi Yogi:

I never saw either of the words 'asian' or 'muslim' in the article so most of the previous 4 pages of this thread are not only immaterial to the discussion, but also nonsensical. Back to the topic of this thread I only have to say " What's the problem"?

I don't think anyone has a problem with the beat down the dad gave to the POS. It's the killing part people are probably having issues with. I don't know how the justice system reacts to this kind of thing down in Brazil. If they turn a blind eye to it then dad probably has a great reason to kill him. Yet if it is the opposite in regards to the justice system then maybe dad should have beat his arse then called the cops.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

Yogi Yogi:

I never saw either of the words 'asian' or 'muslim' in the article so most of the previous 4 pages of this thread are not only immaterial to the discussion, but also nonsensical. Back to the topic of this thread I only have to say " What's the problem"?

I don't think anyone has a problem with the beat down the dad gave to the POS. It's the killing part people are probably having issues with. I don't know how the justice system reacts to this kind of thing down in Brazil. If they turn a blind eye to it then dad probably has a great reason to kill him. Yet if it is the opposite in regards to the justice system then maybe dad should have beat his arse then called the cops.

I know I have no problem with it. I don't advocate killing, but I consider both the protection of children and punishment for rapists grounds for doing so.

If you don't want to be dragged out into the bush, shot in the back of the head and left for the wolves and worms - don't rape children. Seems pretty simple to my mind.

[Zipperfish]

Abuse of young girls and young girls and young women using drink and drugs is a scourge that is really just coming out of the closet now. Look at Bill Cosby--he allegedly carried on this behaviour for decades. Probably the same with Ghomeshi. Retah Parsons back east, was raped while completely intoxicated.

In Northern England there is a particular problem with Muslims victimizing predominately non-Muslim girls. Yes, if you generalize over the whole world I'm sure that signal disappears, and I'm sure that there is no difficulty finding counterexamples in Northern England either. However, as a couple of judges pointed out, in Northern England these girls were specifically targeted because they were non-Muslim. That's a hate crime in my books.

[Yogi]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Abuse of young girls and young girls and young women using drink and drugs is a scourge that is really just coming out of the closet now. Look at Bill Cosby--he allegedly carried on this behaviour for decades. Probably the same with Ghomeshi. Retah Parsons back east, was raped while completely intoxicated.

In Northern England there is a particular problem with Muslims victimizing predominately non-Muslim girls. Yes, if you generalize over the whole world I'm sure that signal disappears, and I'm sure that there is no difficulty finding counterexamples in Northern England either. However, as a couple of judges pointed out, in Northern England these girls were specifically targeted because they were non-Muslim. That's a hate crime in my books.

^^And has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

I guess that would mean the white girls groomed by the Asians were also Muslims, so they kept it in house. Maybe that's why the police etc didn't give a rats ass.

Why can't you admit when you shit the bed andy? Got caught making a stupid statement and fell back to your deflective posture.

And along comes andys cheerleader.

fifeboy fifeboy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

andyt andyt:

As I pointed out in the "Asian" grooming gang discussion, by far the greatest proportion of online groomers (which the OP is about) are white men. Young girls are lured and threatened into prostitution by men of all colors and creeds, all over the world. It's not a Muslim phenomenon.
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So whites can't be muslims according to andy.

Congratulations for exposing your ignorance, again.

You will need one of these:

[andyt]

Right, right, all those white men are muslims, but the white girls aren't. Talk about shit.