[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Incorrect.

There's research that supports both sides of the debate. A quick search online shows the various studies.

Because there are two sides to a debate does not mean that both sides are equal.

The problem that the Conservatives and the Daddy-state types have is that most Canadians have tried pot at one point or another,so outlandish claims are dismissed, as is the messenger.

Pot is certainly not harmless, but it isn't very harmful either. People don't kill for it, and people don't die from it. And the harm people do is mainly to themselves.

Where potheads might harm others is in driving. But from personal experience I can vouch that I was far safer on pot than booze behind the wheel.

Neither scenario should make society as a whole feel any safer. When you're dead you're dead and the choice of the perpetrator's impairment is irrelevant.

[Zipperfish]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Neither scenario should make society as a whole feel any safer. When you're dead you're dead and the choice of the perpetrator's impairment is irrelevant.

Good. I'm safe enough already, thank you very much.

[Public_Domain]

[PublicAnimalNo9]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

From tobacco too? Let's see, the last poll showed that about 17% of Canadians regularly used tobacco products. Lord knows how many of them are regular buyers of Native smokes so I'm not really seeing tobacco being the big "cash cow" it was 30-40 years ago.
Then there's the hypocrisy. Ontario wants to sue the tobacco companies despite being complicit in and profiting from the tobacco trade.
Yep, Ontario wants to sue big tobacco but you'll notice they still permit the sale of tobacco products in stores.

Of course they do. It's a cash cow. 1+ billion for Ontario alone per year.

7 billion a year come from Canadians in the form of tobacco taxes. Provinces and the Feds don't want to give that up.

http://www.smoke-free.ca/pdf_1/totaltax.pdf

It's a cash cow $1+ billion for Ontario alone per year So, you think $1 billion is a lot of money? Here's some perspective for you. In 2011 alone, the wages and salaries of the entire Ontario public sector was $74.4 Billion.

Health costs for tobacco related illness in Ontario alone are at least $1.6 billion annually with another $4.4 billion in annual productivity losses. So, we can see smoking costs Ontario a minimum of $6 billion per year resulting in a net loss of $5+ billion per year from the use of tobacco products.

Cash cow my ass.

[OnTheIce]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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It's a cash cow $1+ billion for Ontario alone per year So, you think $1 billion is a lot of money? Here's some perspective for you. In 2011 alone, the wages and salaries of the entire Ontario public sector was $74.4 Billion.

Health costs for tobacco related illness in Ontario alone are at least $1.6 billion annually with another $4.4 billion in annual productivity losses. So, we can see smoking costs Ontario a minimum of $6 billion per year resulting in a net loss of $5+ billion per year from the use of tobacco products.

Cash cow my ass.

I understand it may be a little too complex for you but consider all the economic activity, good and bad, that comes from the sale of items like cigarettes and booze.

Retail sales, medical sales, jobs, the list goes on. The cigarette industry is far more than just the taxes it collects on the sale of the product itself. The

[PublicAnimalNo9]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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It's a cash cow $1+ billion for Ontario alone per year So, you think $1 billion is a lot of money? Here's some perspective for you. In 2011 alone, the wages and salaries of the entire Ontario public sector was $74.4 Billion.

Health costs for tobacco related illness in Ontario alone are at least $1.6 billion annually with another $4.4 billion in annual productivity losses. So, we can see smoking costs Ontario a minimum of $6 billion per year resulting in a net loss of $5+ billion per year from the use of tobacco products.

Cash cow my ass.

I understand it may be a little too complex for you but consider all the economic activity, good and bad, that comes from the sale of items like cigarettes and booze.

Retail sales, medical sales, jobs, the list goes on. The cigarette industry is far more than just the taxes it collects on the sale of the product itself. The

Of course it's more than that. It's also the $4.4 billion in lost productivity every year in Ontario. It's the $1.6 billion spent on smoking related illnesses in Ontario.
But since you're all about economic benefit, why the push for wanting to keep weed illegal? Just think of all those retail sales, medical sales, jobs and the rest of the benefits on that list of yours that "goes on". Considering at least as many Canadians smoke weed as use tobacco products, one would think you'd be anxious for the economic benefit of legalized marijuana sales since it too would be a "cash cow" according to your own metric.

[Zipperfish]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

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It's a cash cow $1+ billion for Ontario alone per year So, you think $1 billion is a lot of money? Here's some perspective for you. In 2011 alone, the wages and salaries of the entire Ontario public sector was $74.4 Billion.

Health costs for tobacco related illness in Ontario alone are at least $1.6 billion annually with another $4.4 billion in annual productivity losses. So, we can see smoking costs Ontario a minimum of $6 billion per year resulting in a net loss of $5+ billion per year from the use of tobacco products.

Cash cow my ass.

I understand it may be a little too complex for you but consider all the economic activity, good and bad, that comes from the sale of items like cigarettes and booze.

Retail sales, medical sales, jobs, the list goes on. The cigarette industry is far more than just the taxes it collects on the sale of the product itself. The

Of course it's more than that. It's also the $4.4 billion in lost productivity every year in Ontario. It's the $1.6 billion spent on smoking related illnesses in Ontario.
But since you're all about economic benefit, why the push for wanting to keep weed illegal? Just think of all those retail sales, medical sales, jobs and the rest of the benefits on that list of yours that "goes on". Considering at least as many Canadians smoke weed as use tobacco products, one would think you'd be anxious for the economic benefit of legalized marijuana sales since it too would be a "cash cow" according to your own metric.

I AM GROOT.

[Yogi]

[quote="Public_Domain"]These ads always made me want to try new things when I was a kid.[/quote]

[Public_Domain]