[N_Fiddledog]

Delwin Delwin:

Another good study for you to blindly ignore:


Facts and Fictions about Islam in Prison:
Assessing Prisoner Radicalization in Post-9/11 America

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Are Extremist Muslims in American Prisons a Unique Threat?
A Comparative View
In debates about prisoner radicalization, Muslims are portrayed as a particularly deadly threat, more so than other ideological groups. This argument appears unfounded, particularly when considering such White Supremacist groups as the Aryan Brotherhood (AB) and the Nazi Low Riders. According to FBI data, the AB is particularly deadly. Although its members represent less than one-tenth of 1% of the nation’s entire prison population, its members are responsible for 18% of all prison murders nationwide, numerous violent and drug-related offenses outside of prison, and of attempting various acts of terrorism.149 Equally telling is a 2007 prison intelligence assessment indicating that “the prison gangs most capable of using IEDs [Improvised Explosive Devices] are the white supremacy organizations, including the Aryan Brotherhood, the Order of White Knights, and inmates who claim religious affiliation with Druidism and Odinism.”150

http://www.ispu.org/pdfs/ISPU_Report_Pr ... It_WEB.pdf

I don't know if it's fair to actual studies to call that one a study, but you are correct. I will ignore that attempt at a report.

When I see the word "Social" in the title of an organization my bullshit detector immediately begins to squeeeeeeee.

Then I noticed it's funded by some Muslim organization.

So no, I'm not going to read it. I will however acknowledge that a biased organization did write a report hoping to convince people all these prison converted Muslims who went on to terrorism and other forms of religiously inspired criminality don't actually exist. You know...like the small samplings I gave you examples of on the previous page.

I will also acknowledge the writers of your report enjoy an argument based on false equivalency as much as you do. The quote you offered is a good example. It's a weird sort of logic that. Isn't it? Things are similar, so they're the same, so neither is better. Carried through it says nothing is better or worse, so nothing matters. Muslim radicalization doesn't matter because it's like Nazi radicalization, or from the other side Nazi radicalization is like Muslim radicalization, so it doesn't matter. Why does it only sound crazy when I say it? Aren't we both saying the same thing? Surely one proposal can't be superior to the other? They're similar.

But yes, I ignore crap like that. Here's your chance to get me back though. Here's another one for you to ignore.

It goes into more detail on European Muslim radicalization in prisons.

http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2009 ... an-prisons

[BartSimpson]

In another incident completely unrelated to islam a moslem has threatened to behead Christians on behalf of islam.

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014 ... ker-Friday

[N_Fiddledog]

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It’s becoming a disturbing trend.

For months, Ali Muhammad Brown, a man described as a devout Muslim convert, engaged in what prosecutors allege was a “bloody crusade” aimed at avenging the deaths of Muslims killed by American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. From Seattle, Washington to West Orange, New Jersey, Brown left four bodies in his wake. But the national press refused to report on his case until weeks after he was indicted. Almost none outside local media outlets in Seattle noted that Brown had intentionally targeted gay men is his campaign of vengeance.

A Seattle-based Fox affiliate called Brown a “radical jihadist,” but few other press outlets followed their lead. Perhaps because Brown was not receiving coded transmissions from Pakistani handlers, some apparently determined that his actions should not be considered terrorism. One has to wonder whether the members of Seattle’s gay community who use the social media app Brown utilized to target his victims felt terrorized. Whether we call it terrorism or not, the effect of Brown’s spree was to instill fear and to force those who survived his attacks to rethink their routines.

This familiar pattern is happening again, now in Oklahoma City. On Friday, what was reportedly a disgruntled former employee of a food processing facility decided to take his frustrations out on his coworkers. He killed one, according to initial reports, and wounded another before being incapacitated by the gun-carrying company’s owner.

But as more details emerged, the more an ominous pattern began to emerge. Some have begun to determine that they are again being lied to in service to the ignoble mission of defining terrorism down.

The suspect, Alton Nolen, had beheaded his first victim – the jihadist calling card which has become a common element of Islamist attacks in the United Kingdom, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Algeria. He was reportedly a recent convert to Islam, and had been proselytizing in his place of work for some time. Nolen’s unsuccessful attempts to convert his coworkers were reportedly part of the reason for his dismissal.

During the attack, local outlets reported that Nolen was allegedly shouting Islamic phrases, similar to those which Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan shouted during his 2009 rampage. What’s more, Nolen’s Facebook page contained favorable images of Osama bin Laden and the prominent ISIS commander, Omar al-Shishani. His social media posts also included an image depicting an ISIS beheading.

Sanitizing Terror Part II

[N_Fiddledog]

This one's from counter-jihadist scholar Robert Spencer, so take it or leave it.

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The Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City is in full damage-control and victimhood mode, saying they hardly knew Oklahoma beheader Jah’Keem Yisrael, and asking for protection against “backlash.” But here is a look inside that mosque, courtesy an ex-Muslim who attended there and still lives nearby, and who sent me this information directly:

I went to the same mosque the Oklahoma Muslim who beheaded his co-worker today. I live ten minutes away!

The Imam was Imad Enchassi the last I heard. He was a friend of mine. He is a Lebanese-born Sunni who hates Israel. He once gave a sermon that the Israelis were trying to collapse al-Aqsa mosque by digging tunnels underneath it. They have no issue with Palestinian suicide bombings because, as it was explained to me, that is the only weapon the Palestinians have.

They sold Milestones in the book shop while I was there, which as you know calls for replacing all non-Islamic governments with Islamic ones. I remember listening to a tape a friend of mine, Yahya Graff, another white convert to Islam, had that prayed for the destruction of Israel and America.

The imam when I first converted, Suhaib Webb, is hailed as a moderate by liberals in the United States but he was the one that explicitly told me that according to Islam, three choices are to be given to non-Muslims: convert, pay the jizyah tax and live under Islamic rule, or jihad. They try very hard to whitewash Islam when the media is around, but they believe in their religion and the ultimate goal of an Islamic caliphate.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/oklah ... and-israel

[BartSimpson]

No matter how many times moslems speak their opinions there will be a legion of leftards ready to explain, deny, or simply ignore them.

And they absolutely won't even acknowledge that one of these jihadis was deliberately killing homosexuals because that sets one protected group against another of their protected groups. That just won't do to talk about that kind of thing so it's easier just to pretend how tolerant and peaceful the jihadi was or else to deny that he was an 'authentic' moslem.

[ShepherdsDog]

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leftards

aka proglodyte dhummies

[ShepherdsDog]

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Suhaib Webb, is hailed as a moderate by liberals in the United States

Moderates in Islam aren't the same as moderates in the secular world

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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Suhaib Webb, is hailed as a moderate by liberals in the United States

Moderates in Islam aren't the same as moderates in the secular world

Ten Reasons Why Moderate Muslims Are Not the Answer

[BartSimpson]

Something I just came across...

[martin14]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Something I just came across...

People claiming that IS aren't Islamic have not been able to present proof.



On the contrary, IS has been showing us exactly what Islam is.

[BRAH]

Work Place Violence.

[BeaverFever]

I've also noticed that almost everyone in Minnesota is American. By following the logic of the right wing brain trust on this thread, it must mean that all Americans are Minnesotans, and we shouldn't believe anyone who claims differently.

Let's go down to Buffalo or Detroit and let these people know how much the Vikings suck. That'll teach them to support a football team with a child abuser!

[PluggyRug]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I've also noticed that almost everyone in Minnesota is American. By following the logic of the right wing brain trust on this thread, it must mean that all Americans are Minnesotans, and we shouldn't believe anyone who claims differently.

Let's go down to Buffalo or Detroit and let these people know how much the Vikings suck. That'll teach them to support a football team with a child abuser!

Deflecting with a giant bale of straw, you end up with a giant bale of straw scattered around and of little use. Except to those whose left shoe is worn out.

[BeaverFever]

I think you need to look up what the term straw man actually means.

[QBall]

Someone needs to make this woman president or in charge of something important. Testify!