[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Gunnair Gunnair:

internet boaters

The problem with internet boaters is that they have 65,535 ports and not one single starboard.

Smart ass!

[raydan]

3 ports = 1 starboard.

[Gunnair]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

Gunnair Gunnair:

In my experience, internet boaters such as yourself are pitiful types that pretend forums are the crowded room where you can yell out your back patting exercises as you wash your Subway uniform. You want accolades and attention; you usually get scorn and laughter.

You sound like a little boy from elementary school. Bullying everyone because you are so insecure.

I have run for political office. I have described how I can completely eliminate federal personal income tax. That was created in 1917 as the "Temporary War Income Tax Act", I like to point out the acronym is the "TWIT Act". It was supposed to be temporary for World War 1 only. We still have it. I can't get rid of both personal and corporate income tax, but I can get rid of one. I already explained how. It does start with being responsible with taxpayer's money.

You obviously don't have any clue what it's like to run for political office. There are bureaucrats there, trying to ensure government exists to support bureaucracies, not citizens. Many members of the party accept me, but there are some who are bureaucrats, not willing to accept reducing spending or reducing taxes. These people are in every party. It's not easy. There are some who believe only the very rich should be politicians. Again most accept me, but there are some who don't. I'm not rich, never have been. I'm a computer programmer, not a subway employee; but I'm not some spoiled rich brat either. To get elected, I do need support from voters. Bullies like you only support those who gouge and screw average Canadians to line their own pockets.

You completely forgot the invention of speed holes for that extensive resume...

[Winnipegger]

You're reaction is very childish. What do you hope to accomplish?

[Gunnair]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

You're reaction is very childish. What do you hope to accomplish?

It takes almost no provocation for your to bloviate yourself into a lather of empty swagger and hollow gloating.

It's fun to watch your petulance kick in whenever this created persona is questioned.

[Winnipegger]

You still don't get it. It isn't a "created persona". I guess your's is. This is me. I guess you don't understand someone who actually tries to accomplish something significant. That means you are so insecure that you just don't try. I recommend you do that: try to accomplish something. Not just bully people, but do something big and significant and hard.

[Gunnair]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

You still don't get it. It isn't a "created persona". I guess your's is. This is me. I guess you don't understand someone who actually tries to accomplish something significant. That means you are so insecure that you just don't try. I recommend you do that: try to accomplish something. Not just bully people, but do something big and significant and hard.

If you feel bullied by the fact that I don't buy your created persona, nor your bombastic braggadocio, and your incredible and laughable bluster when horribly incorrect, then I could send you a hurt feelings report because you sound very insecure.

[Winnipegger]

What do you not believe?

[Gunnair]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

What do you not believe?

I'm pretty sure I've adequately outlined my thoughts on the subject, as have a few others.

[Winnipegger]

I was president of the Liberal riding association from late 2007 to early 2009. In Manitoba, riding association presidents have a seat on the executive for the Liberal Party of Canada in Manitoba. The riding association made me the president to allow me to prepare for my own candidacy. Tanya Parks was candidate for the 2004 and 2006 federal elections. She did Ok, but lost both times. Her campaign had significant debt after 2004, so her campaign manager deliberately managed her campaign so it would pay off that debt. In 2006 she didn't run to win, but just pay off her debt. She told me after the 2006 election that she had no intention to run again, so that left it open to me. My nomination was uncontested. So why do you find it hard to believe that I was the candidate going into the 2008 federal election?

In 1999 and the early part of the 2000s, I chased my dream of being an aerospace contractor. I was getting older, nothing was changing, so I decided to try. The Mars Society was founded in 1998, I joined in 1999. Part of their charter was to "hitchhike" a small probe on one of NASA's missions. They got significant funding, managed to build a couple analogue research stations. The Mars Society was a combination of NASA scientists, engineers working for contractors for NASA, and average space fans like you and me. I asked why just hitchhike on a mission, why not send something really small ourselves. So I organized a poll on the Mars Society internet forum, asked members what they want to send. Then called for volunteers. It turned out there were already 3 groups within the Mars Society that wanted to send a balloon, so I asked them to work together. One power engineer who works for Cisco designing power supplies wanted to design the power supply for our probe. One military contractor had bid to provide the propellant tank for the multiple re-entry vehicle bus for Minuteman missiles, but didn't win the contract. He wanted us to use his company's propellant tank. I already described my efforts to get information about NASA ion engine. I was more of a project manager, pulling talented people together. Oh, I have been a senior systems analyst for major companies, overseeing junior programmers, so have some experience with project management. But when I asked Dr. Robert Zubrin to make this an official Mars Society project, he said no. He was concerned that it was a mix of professionals and amateurs. But that was the point, to give Society members the opportunity to do something really spectacular. But he said no. The Society board of directors includes a number of NASA research fellows, individuals who could authorize his/her NASA research center to sponsor the mission so we get a free ride on the Space Shuttle. But without the Society president's authorization, we couldn't get a member of the board to give NASA sponsorship. So the project fell apart at that point. Then after the Challenger accident, NASA announced small explorers were banned from the Shuttle.

During my bid for the ion engine, when I first encountered the small print that said anyone outside the US wouldn't get paid, I didn't give up right away. They expected the Canadian Space Agency would pay for my work. That's not reasonable. The Canadian Space Agency doesn't have enough money for their own stuff, much less paying for a NASA project. But I tried anyway. NASA was tripping over themselves to help me. I just mentioned the "Mars Society" and they bent over backwards to help. The Mars Society lobbied Congress to increase NASA's budget, so that's why. But when I called the Canadian Space Agency, they asked "how did you get this number?" So I had to attend CSA conferences, to show my face and schmooze. Those cost $2,000 each, plus air fare, hotel and meals. But I did attend the fourth and fifth Canadian Space Exploration Workshops. Got known. Met CSA directors, and networked with other business people trying to land contracts. Then they were willing to talk to me. But that didn't change the fact CSA doesn't have money to pay for anything interesting.

Oh, the NASA conference in Washington also cost $2,000 plus air fare, hotel and meals. And I didn't get any work out of it. Did meet a few people. Some of my ideas were stolen. But didn't get any income.

The NASA contract to replace the computer was not at that conference. But I thought that one was ideal for me. If I can't land that one, then I can't land anything. I could go into more details, NASA did get me in contact with a Canadian crown corporation that I never heard of before, one that exists solely to help Canadians land contracts in the American aerospace and defence industries. The first stunt pulled by United Space Alliance was the pre-bidders conference. That was common for NASA, but they said any non-American had to submit an application for security clearance. That shouldn't be a problem for me considering I got US federal government security clearance when I worked on a tax computer system for Miami-Dade county. But the package United Space Alliance sent me didn't leave their office until the day after my application had to be received. So there was no way I could. I then asked someone I met through the Mars Society to be my representative, an American who lives in Florida. He was willing, but the project manager from United Space Alliance still said no. Although the announcement from NASA said it was open to foreign organizations, he didn't want to work with any non-American, so refused to let my representative in. He blatantly said he had no intention of letting me get the contract. The only reason he sent me the package was to get my ideas.

By the way, the NASA computer was the diagnostic workstation for all communication equipment on Space Shuttle orbiters. The pre-bidders conference would have been in the Orbiter Processing Building at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Damn! I would have been happy to just be there! When I worked in Miami, I drove up to KSC one weekend. Took all the tours, spent the whole day there. But this pre-bidders conference was not in a visitor center, it was in the Orbiter Processing Building! Damn! (geeking out)

After being so thoroughly screwed, I decided to give up on aerospace, and try politics. I approached the Liberal Party prior to the 2004 election. The executive director for the Manitoba recommended I work for a candidate before trying to be one, so I could learn what's involved. So I campaigned for Reg Alcock in 2004, then my local candidate in 2006. It worked; after all that work I got the riding association's support for my nomination.

I could go on with a sob story, but you see it isn't all roses. Does that make you feel better? Is your life so horribly bad that you won't accept anything from anyone else unless it sounds bad?

[Jabberwalker]

I was president of the Liberal riding association

.... credibility evaporates with the first clause ....

[DrCaleb]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I was president of the Liberal riding association

.... credibility evaporates with the first clause ....

That's funny, coming from you.

Are you really a machine shop operator? Has anyone checked? Does it really matter if you are or aren't? Is Gunnair really an RCN PO? Is Winnipegger a former aerospace engineer? Does it really matter if these things are true or not? And does anyone care?

No.

All that matters (to me) is how people behave here and now. What they did, or say they did or do is pretty much irrelevant. I imagine there are some pretty talented and experienced people on CKA. But when it comes down to it, we are all just dots on each other's screens.

[Winnipegger]

Ok. Here are a couple NASA documents. I still have everything. I would upload the letter from the NASA enginner, but it has my real name. The way Jabberwalker and Gunnair are responding, I don't think I want to post that. Not yet anyway.

[Gunnair]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I was president of the Liberal riding association

.... credibility evaporates with the first clause ....

That's funny, coming from you.

Are you really a machine shop operator? Has anyone checked? Does it really matter if you are or aren't? Is Gunnair really an RCN PO? Is Winnipegger a former aerospace engineer? Does it really matter if these things are true or not? And does anyone care?

No.

All that matters (to me) is how people behave here and now. What they did, or say they did or do is pretty much irrelevant. I imagine there are some pretty talented and experienced people on CKA. But when it comes down to it, we are all just dots on each other's screens.

We are, and the extensive claims and demands for belief are therefore irrelevant.

[DrCaleb]

Gunnair Gunnair:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I was president of the Liberal riding association

.... credibility evaporates with the first clause ....

That's funny, coming from you.

Are you really a machine shop operator? Has anyone checked? Does it really matter if you are or aren't? Is Gunnair really an RCN PO? Is Winnipegger a former aerospace engineer? Does it really matter if these things are true or not? And does anyone care?

No.

All that matters (to me) is how people behave here and now. What they did, or say they did or do is pretty much irrelevant. I imagine there are some pretty talented and experienced people on CKA. But when it comes down to it, we are all just dots on each other's screens.

We are, and the extensive claims and demands for belief are therefore irrelevant.

Eggzactlee. And if Winnipegger really was Prez of his Liberal riding association and all the other things, well at least he was doing something about his beliefs and political views and not just bitching about it on the Internet. If he wasn't, well more's the pity that he needs to have us believe untrue things about himself in order to have a little self worth.