[Delwin]

That's even worse, some secret discount for the good ole "Christians", an unwritten kind of rule, so no one gets to actually challenge the details. Are you sure it was for all people who pray ? Maybe it was only for all white people who pray, how can we be sure ? Nothing is written down and we don't know the secret handshake.

[raydan]

You've never been in a restaurant and offered a "complementary" after meal drink or dessert? "Complementary" or "at the discretion of" is pretty much the same thing... nothing is written down and we don't know the secret handshake.

[Delwin]

No but if I was, I would take them right to task. I'd be like "listen you nazi puke, I don't know what kind of underground Nazi network you're running here but I don't want no part of it. You can take your handshakes and your secret rituals somewhere else because I don't want any part of your free coffee cake."

[jj2424]

Delwin Delwin:

No but if I was, I would take them right to task. I'd be like "listen you nazi puke, I don't know what kind of underground Nazi network you're running here but I don't want no part of it. You can take your handshakes and your secret rituals somewhere else because I don't want any part of your free coffee cake."

Of course you would, that's why you live in a tiny one bedroom apartment all by yourself and shovel snow for a living.

[raydan]

Delwin Delwin:

No but if I was, I would take them right to task. I'd be like "listen you nazi puke, I don't know what kind of underground Nazi network you're running here but I don't want no part of it. You can take your handshakes and your secret rituals somewhere else because I don't want any part of your free coffee cake."

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Thank you... you may play again later.

[Delwin]

No prob, it was the only way you could have won any contest against me. Consider it your complimentary dessert.

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

we don't know the secret handshake.

I do.

[2Cdo]

Delwin Delwin:

No prob, it was the only way you could have won any contest against me. Consider it your complimentary dessert.

A legend in your own mind.

[Delwin]

No doubt.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

Right, because you would be perfectly OK with it, if it was a discount for anyone except Christians, or people who don't pray. Bullshit.

No, you're projecting YOUR bullshit. I DO NOT pray, and I could give a flying rat's ass about someone else getting a discount for it or not.

What I hear from you is, "I don't qualify so no one else should either".

Yet you seem to have no issue with refugees having free access to more health care services than any Canadian does on their provincial health plan. Nor do you seem to take issue with discounts or freebies based on age or gender.

Although I can't help but think that if some restaurant offered a 15% discount for those who openly supported Palestine, you'd be a daily patron.

[Delwin]

That's interesting. I wouldn't consider myself ultra-religious, but I do pray, never in public though. The bible is very clear about praying in public:

$1:

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

‎Matthew 6:6

So for me the concept itself is contrary to my religious beliefs and for that reason, I couldn't benefit from the discount. This isn't to say that I would ever use my religion to try to cash in on a 15% discount. How fucking shallow and fake would I be ? My religion is it's own reward, and I wouldn't accept a discount or make myself a spectacle for 15%.

This isn't the reason that this discount is wrong though, the reason it is wrong is it creates 2 tiers of pricing, one for those who pray, and one for those who don't. Basically, in order to qualify for the better pricing you have to partake in a religious ritual that you may not believe in, having this religious ritual basically forced on you in order to take advantage of the better pricing.

You might not think of 15% as a big deal, but multiplied over many meals, it could be a fair bit of money. Also, if it is OK for a restaurant to do it, why not a car dealership? grocer? landlord? Why can't we just make people who don't pray or aren't religious pay more for everything ?

The law is very clear about religious discrimination, and this is pretty blatant.

[Delwin]

Dear Lord,

Please bless the sick and the hungry, help bring peace to the world and give us the strength to carry out your will. Also, could you maybe help us to get a 15% discount on these eggs Benedict, $2.85 seems a tad high and I was really looking to grab a double helping.

Sheesh.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

That's interesting. I wouldn't consider myself ultra-religious, but I do pray, never in public though. The bible is very clear about praying in public:

$1:

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

‎Matthew 6:6

So, you say you pray, but that you don't give thanks for your meal when you eat out?
As for praying in public, read the context. It's talking primarily about making a friggin' SHOWY display of your "piety".
Lowering your head in silent thanks for your meal at a restaurant is hardly an ostentatious display.

And seriously, read that passage again after I paraphrase it the way you're intending it to be read. "Keep your praying a BIG ol' secret, and God will openly reward you."
So, if you don't let anyone know you're praying, God will give you a nice prize that everyone will notice.

Further into the context, that part of Matthew also talks about charity. Giving is good. Making it obvious it's you doing the giving is bad.
So by Biblical logic, contributing to the Veteran's donation boxes during the run up to Nov.11, or to the Sally Ann when they're out in force during Christmas, should be discouraged. After all, it's not being done in super secret privacy.

[Delwin]

I have every right to interpret the bible any way I feel. That's the great thing about religious freedom. Thanks for the sermon though Mr" I don't pray"

I said the practice is contrary to my beliefs. Are you trying to tell me what I believe ? Good one.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Delwin Delwin:

I have every right to interpret the bible any way I feel. That's the great thing about religious freedom. Thanks for the sermon though Mr" I don't pray"

I said the practice is contrary to my beliefs. Are you trying to tell me what I believe ? Good one.

Wanna hear a better one? You're saying THEY are wrong for giving thanks at a restaurant because of what YOU believe interpret the Bible to mean.

As for the sermon, anytime Mr. "Anyone who doesn't think what I think is wrong."
I think it's always important to help people who are quick to whip out single Biblical verses out of context, understand why context is important.

It's discouraging to see how many Christians seem to think that every verse in the Bible is a standalone verse wholly unto itself.