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[Jabberwalker]

Teaching a kid to memorize their multiplication tables is useful because regardless of what you think about it the basic multiplication table contains some undisputed and useful facts.


You mean, 8 x 8 is NOT 88?

[sandorski]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

How you come to a Conclusion is important. Sorry. Anyone can Memorize anything, but if they have no clue as to Why an answer is the answer, they have not learned anything useful.

I agree that how a person comes to a conclusion is important. And teaching kids how to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion is something they need to know.

But then there's things like basic math.

Teaching a kid to memorize their multiplication tables is useful because regardless of what you think about it the basic multiplication table contains some undisputed and useful facts.



Spelling is another useful skill that can be memorized in first and second grades while saving the larger 'why' of the English language for a kids' first year in university English 1A.

All of this focus on theories and concepts is cheating kids of learning the basic and useful facts that are the foundation for learning in later life.

But, yeah, you folks go ahead and cheat your kids of an education and then wonder at why home schooled and private schooled kids are dominating in the Ivy League schools like they do. Oh, and be sure to complain about how it's 'unfair' because saying something is 'unfair' is a clear demonstration of the ability to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion.

Memorization is fine, but if you can't show why a x b =y, you haven't really learned anything. Th point is the Process, not the Answer. With the Process you can Answer any Math problem, regardless of whether you have Memorized it or not.

[DrCaleb]

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

sandorski sandorski:

How you come to a Conclusion is important. Sorry. Anyone can Memorize anything, but if they have no clue as to Why an answer is the answer, they have not learned anything useful.

I agree that how a person comes to a conclusion is important. And teaching kids how to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion is something they need to know.

But then there's things like basic math.

Teaching a kid to memorize their multiplication tables is useful because regardless of what you think about it the basic multiplication table contains some undisputed and useful facts.



Spelling is another useful skill that can be memorized in first and second grades while saving the larger 'why' of the English language for a kids' first year in university English 1A.

All of this focus on theories and concepts is cheating kids of learning the basic and useful facts that are the foundation for learning in later life.

But, yeah, you folks go ahead and cheat your kids of an education and then wonder at why home schooled and private schooled kids are dominating in the Ivy League schools like they do. Oh, and be sure to complain about how it's 'unfair' because saying something is 'unfair' is a clear demonstration of the ability to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion.

Memorization is fine, but if you can't show why a x b =y, you haven't really learned anything. Th point is the Process, not the Answer. With the Process you can Answer any Math problem, regardless of whether you have Memorized it or not.

The 'process' of 12 X 12 is adding 12 to itself 12 times. It's really not more complicated than that. Memorizing 12 X 12 = 144 is faster, nothing to do with 'process'. Teach them this simple principle, and move on.

From what I can see, this 'core math' crap is just a distraction from learning the basics so they can get to the important stuff that they will actually use in their careers.

[DrCaleb]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I still have many University and Tech school textbooks, and most of them are horribly outdated. Computer Science has changed a bit, and there were no websites back then.

How did you live with no websites, grandpa?

Someone had to first build all this infrastructure you use, son.

[Jabberwalker]

Someone had to first build all this infrastructure you use, son.

... and the knowledge dies with this generation, too. It'll be like post-Roman Europe when nobody remembered how to fix the aqueducts, anymore and they crumbled into ruin.

[sandorski]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

sandorski sandorski:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I agree that how a person comes to a conclusion is important. And teaching kids how to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion is something they need to know.

But then there's things like basic math.

Teaching a kid to memorize their multiplication tables is useful because regardless of what you think about it the basic multiplication table contains some undisputed and useful facts.



Spelling is another useful skill that can be memorized in first and second grades while saving the larger 'why' of the English language for a kids' first year in university English 1A.

All of this focus on theories and concepts is cheating kids of learning the basic and useful facts that are the foundation for learning in later life.

But, yeah, you folks go ahead and cheat your kids of an education and then wonder at why home schooled and private schooled kids are dominating in the Ivy League schools like they do. Oh, and be sure to complain about how it's 'unfair' because saying something is 'unfair' is a clear demonstration of the ability to logically approach a problem and come to a conclusion.

Memorization is fine, but if you can't show why a x b =y, you haven't really learned anything. Th point is the Process, not the Answer. With the Process you can Answer any Math problem, regardless of whether you have Memorized it or not.

The 'process' of 12 X 12 is adding 12 to itself 12 times. It's really not more complicated than that. Memorizing 12 X 12 = 144 is faster, nothing to do with 'process'. Teach them this simple principle, and move on.

From what I can see, this 'core math' crap is just a distraction from learning the basics so they can get to the important stuff that they will actually use in their careers.

No. I know what 12x12 is, you know what it is. The Test is to determine if the Students know what it is. "Common Core" isn't new, it is pretty much what I grew up with in BC and Alberta. I lost marks a few times for not showing my work.