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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:15 am
andyt andyt: But I guess it's my turn for Muslim bashing when I say that lack of subtlety seems to be big in the Muslim community these days. Like most illogical debate tactics, I see through that one. It's not {anything} bashing if there is no discrimination involved. Saying "there is no subtlety in the {Gay Pride, Muslim, NASCAR} movement" is just stating opinion without showing prejudice based on that group membership.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:17 am
NBC News this morning reports that the reports of the girls being rescued are outright lies. Boko Haram issued a video statement saying that the girls have been removed from the country and sold in slave markets in neighboring countries.
The parents of the girls are staging demonstrations and protests demanding that the Nigerian government do something to recover these girls as NONE of them have been returned home.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:20 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: andyt andyt: But I guess it's my turn for Muslim bashing when I say that lack of subtlety seems to be big in the Muslim community these days. Like most illogical debate tactics, I see through that one. It's not {anything} bashing if there is no discrimination involved. Saying "there is no subtlety in the {Gay Pride, Muslim, NASCAR} movement" is just stating opinion without showing prejudice based on that group membership. Your statement is bashing. Note the diff between what I said and you. Your sentence implies its universal, mine, I tried to make sure, recognizes I'm not talking about all Muslims. I didn't know I was employing a debate tactic.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:23 am
andyt andyt: Your statement is bashing. Note the diff between what I said and you. Your sentence implies its universal, mine, I tried to make sure, recognizes I'm not talking about all Muslims.
I didn't know I was employing a debate tactic. No, you're now on the receiving end of a liberal debate tactic and that's to denounce you as 'racist' for stating things about selected groups despite the fact that these things are patently obvious.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:27 am
As I pointed out, there's a difference between universal statements and ones that are. But then subtlety isn't your strong point either, is it. You're very Muslim that way.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:30 am
andyt andyt: As I pointed out, there's a difference between universal statements and ones that are. But then subtlety isn't your strong point either, is it. You're very Muslim that way. Concur.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:52 am
Hopefully the Obama Administration has deployed US special forces to work with the Nigerian military to rescue these young girls and decimate these Islamic Extremists.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:59 am
he doesn't care.....these are Nigerians and he's a Kenyan 
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 8:59 am
Ah, memories of Afghanistan. A ragtag group of fanatics committing crimes that outrage the world. A corrupt, weak central government almost as bad as the fanatics. A casual brutality and complete disregard for the lives of others.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:13 am
andyt andyt: DrCaleb DrCaleb: andyt andyt: But I guess it's my turn for Muslim bashing when I say that lack of subtlety seems to be big in the Muslim community these days. Like most illogical debate tactics, I see through that one. It's not {anything} bashing if there is no discrimination involved. Saying "there is no subtlety in the {Gay Pride, Muslim, NASCAR} movement" is just stating opinion without showing prejudice based on that group membership. Your statement is bashing. Note the diff between what I said and you. Your sentence implies its universal, mine, I tried to make sure, recognizes I'm not talking about all Muslims. I didn't know I was employing a debate tactic. "Dicto simpliciter", the 'sweeping statement'. My statement isn't 'bashing', as I said, there is no prejudice involved in that opinion. 'The car is a nice blue' is another example of this, if somewhat less emotionally evocative.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:15 am
Your statement would be all cars are blue. No subtlety in NASCAR implies universality. There isn't any. Not much, or as I put it, not big on, does leave room for some non-blue cars
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:33 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Ah, memories of Afghanistan. A ragtag group of fanatics committing crimes that outrage the world. A corrupt, weak central government almost as bad as the fanatics. A casual brutality and complete disregard for the lives of others. That's what our Western cultures were like for a thousand years after the fall of Rome.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:49 am
Jabberwalker Jabberwalker: Zipperfish Zipperfish: Ah, memories of Afghanistan. A ragtag group of fanatics committing crimes that outrage the world. A corrupt, weak central government almost as bad as the fanatics. A casual brutality and complete disregard for the lives of others. That's what our Western cultures were like for a thousand years after the fall of Rome. True. But how does that knowledge help in this situation?
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:55 am
Zipperfish Zipperfish: Ah, memories of Afghanistan. A ragtag group of fanatics committing crimes that outrage the world. A corrupt, weak central government almost as bad as the fanatics. A casual brutality and complete disregard for the lives of others. Sounds like Detroit. Or New York City.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:12 am
$1: More than 200 Nigerian girls abducted from a government school will be sold into slavery, according to a videotape from the Islamist terrorist group that captured them. Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau taunted Nigerians and parents by telling them that the girls had become the “property” of Allah, presumably because of their Western education, and that he plans to sell his “slaves” in the market: Video: Boko Haram threatens to sell abducted Christian girls into sex slavery
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