[saturn_656]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

From what I read, there were more than one officer present. Don't tell me our police force has such bad people skills they cannot find a way (maybe with the help of a health care worker specialized in handling people with dementia?) to get things done WITHOUT the 'help' of weapons.

Police have amazing people skills, but people skills tend not to work as well when the person you are dealing with is off their fucking rocker.

My grandfather-in-law died from Alzhimers. Growing up in a small town and being the former mayor, he knew everyone and everyone knew him. He'd often go home, put on the kettle, make some instant coffee, roll a couple cigarettes and sit at the kitchen table and wait for some friends to come by.

We first clued in he had Alzhimers because he would go to the house he sold 15 years earlier and do those things in the new owners kitchen at 3am. They were pretty good sports about it, they'd escort him to the proper house, or call someone to come get him. He wasn't 'off his rocker'; he simply didn't remember the last 15 years very well. This is normal for Alzhimers; you lose more and more of the recent past.

We are all going to have to get used to these realities as our population ages. Some people when they don't know where they are or how they got here, and only remember being 6 years old, can become violent.

I wasn't talking about your grandfather, you shouldn't you take my comments about this particular incident and extend them to every Alzheimers patient or person suffering from memory loss. Was this woman even suffering from Alzheimers? Didn't read that anywhere.

I know a few older folk, I know a few whose memory doesn't work well anymore, lose their bearings, that sort of thing.

None of them have come into contact with the law. More information needs to be made public regarding this incident, we aren't hearing everything.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Brenda Brenda:

From what I read, there were more than one officer present. Don't tell me our police force has such bad people skills they cannot find a way (maybe with the help of a health care worker specialized in handling people with dementia?) to get things done WITHOUT the 'help' of weapons.

Police have amazing people skills, but people skills tend not to work as well when the person you are dealing with is off their fucking rocker.

My grandfather-in-law died from Alzhimers. Growing up in a small town and being the former mayor, he knew everyone and everyone knew him. He'd often go home, put on the kettle, make some instant coffee, roll a couple cigarettes and sit at the kitchen table and wait for some friends to come by.

We first clued in he had Alzhimers because he would go to the house he sold 15 years earlier and do those things in the new owners kitchen at 3am. They were pretty good sports about it, they'd escort him to the proper house, or call someone to come get him. He wasn't 'off his rocker'; he simply didn't remember the last 15 years very well. This is normal for Alzhimers; you lose more and more of the recent past.

Instant coffee ?

Geez, at least lay out some decent stuff for the guy.

[Brenda]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

I know a few older folk, I know a few whose memory doesn't work well anymore, lose their bearings, that sort of thing.

None of them have come into contact with the law. More information needs to be made public regarding this incident, we aren't hearing everything.

SOMEONE called the cops on an 80 year old woman, wandering the streets at 3 am. Maybe we should just have tasered the caller...

[bootlegga]

[DrCaleb]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Police have amazing people skills, but people skills tend not to work as well when the person you are dealing with is off their fucking rocker.

My grandfather-in-law died from Alzhimers. Growing up in a small town and being the former mayor, he knew everyone and everyone knew him. He'd often go home, put on the kettle, make some instant coffee, roll a couple cigarettes and sit at the kitchen table and wait for some friends to come by.

We first clued in he had Alzhimers because he would go to the house he sold 15 years earlier and do those things in the new owners kitchen at 3am. They were pretty good sports about it, they'd escort him to the proper house, or call someone to come get him. He wasn't 'off his rocker'; he simply didn't remember the last 15 years very well. This is normal for Alzhimers; you lose more and more of the recent past.

We are all going to have to get used to these realities as our population ages. Some people when they don't know where they are or how they got here, and only remember being 6 years old, can become violent.

I wasn't talking about your grandfather, you shouldn't you take my comments about this particular incident and extend them to every Alzheimers patient or person suffering from memory loss. Was this woman even suffering from Alzheimers? Didn't read that anywhere.

I know a few older folk, I know a few whose memory doesn't work well anymore, lose their bearings, that sort of thing.

None of them have come into contact with the law. More information needs to be made public regarding this incident, we aren't hearing everything.

Sorry if I implied you were speaking about my grandfather-in-law, but I took your comment 'off their rocker' to apply to all people with degenerative diseases. Zip's link on page one did say she was suffering from Dimentia.

My mom's mom died from Huntingtons chorea. Neither of my experiences with people afflicted with these conditions was ever violent. But as I said, my girlfriend interacts with people with these and worse conditions, and knows how to calm them and when to hit the panic button to bring in the orderlies. Something people in general, and police specifically don't have the tools or training to deal with.

My point is that we will all need these skills, and a little empathy before we taze grandma because she wants to know what all these strangers are doing in her back yard and she just wants her mommy. Because that is the reality for many mentally degererative diseases.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

My grandfather-in-law died from Alzhimers. Growing up in a small town and being the former mayor, he knew everyone and everyone knew him. He'd often go home, put on the kettle, make some instant coffee, roll a couple cigarettes and sit at the kitchen table and wait for some friends to come by.

Instant coffee ?

Geez, at least lay out some decent stuff for the guy.

He was oldschool. What can I say? Sanka was the best thing ever to him. - actually, Sanka with some cigarette ash in it. . .

[martin14]

[Brenda]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Sorry if I implied you were speaking about my grandfather-in-law, but I took your comment 'off their rocker' to apply to all people with degenerative diseases. Zip's link on page one did say she was suffering from Dimentia.

My mom's mom died from Huntingtons chorea. Neither of my experiences with people afflicted with these conditions was ever violent. But as I said, my girlfriend interacts with people with these and worse conditions, and knows how to calm them and when to hit the panic button to bring in the orderlies. Something people in general, and police specifically don't have the tools or training to deal with.

My point is that we will all need these skills, and a little empathy before we taze grandma because she wants to know what all these strangers are doing in her back yard and she just wants her mommy. Because that is the reality for many mentally degererative diseases.

You have a way with words that I obviously lack

[Brenda]

bootlegga bootlegga:

8O

not a good idea?