[raydan]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Xort Xort:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Cetaceans are one of the most highly evolved mammalian orders on the planet, arguably exceeded only by humans. I may gut a Walleye, but I wouldn't slit a dolphins throat.

So much ignorance in so few words.

Perhaps I used the wrong word for my thoughts.

Substitute "intelligent" for "evolved".

That's how I understood it when you posted.
Sometimes you have to read between the lines.

[Xort]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

Perhaps I used the wrong word for my thoughts.
Substitute "intelligent" for "evolved".

I will agree to the revised statement.

“Man has always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much...the wheel, New York, wars and so on...while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man...for precisely the same reason.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Gunnair]

Xort Xort:

Gunnair Gunnair:

My bad. Too subtle...

Tell yourself that.

Would you care to dive into a talk about evolution and how humans and whales are not anymore evolved than anything else? Or will you fall into what seems to be the standard for this forum and just throw down insults or maybe take some time for name calling while leaving the subject untouched?

Not more evolved than anything else? Intriguing. Go on....

[ShepherdsDog]

it was mentioned that dogfish would go well in a fish and chips dish. It was called rock salmon and was very common at British fish and chip shops. Once the vendors had to stop calling it rock salmon and started calling it dogfish....it's popularity went down. but then as the old song goes about battered food....

[Xort]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Not more evolved than anything else? Intriguing. Go on....

Every living breeding thing is in a constant state of evolution. If we are talking about a species that is still breeding, then it's still evolving.

How can one be more evolved or less evolved than something else? You are more evolved than your parrents and this goes on back to the begining of life. But how can you say you are more evolved than another animal that has it's own history of ancestors? Are you going to say that distance in form from a common ancestor is a way to messure how evolved you are?

If define evolved to mean changed, you can achive noticable change rather swiftly if you have the proper enviromental pressures. Much faster in terms of generations and time than another population that had enviroment factors that lead to a low amount of noticeable change.

Would you call bacteria the most evolved life form because it has a very fast repoduction cycle and has racked up the most generations?

Maybe you would like to use an abstract like how complex you have defined something to be? Is something you have defined as being more complex more evolved? How are you assigning value to parts, do you give extra factors for having lots of different systems? Does having many parts repeated over and over add to the complexity faster?

Maybe you are going to define the most evolved as the newest species? Well humans are clearly not the newest species around.

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More or less evolved only works in your own line of ancestors, every living breeding life form around today I would suggest is equaly as evolved. The only differance is between one generation and the next.

I'm more evolved than my parrents, and my children will be more evolved than I am. However I'm not more evolved than my pet dog, or the mold living in the kitchen sink's drain pipe. I'm larger than both, and I could make a logicaly sound arugment than my body is more complex than the mold is. But I wouldn't save I'm more evolved, unless I set out to define evolution as a process that places my own species as the goal.