[Hyack]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Hyack Hyack:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

I think it's the five minute argument, unless you'd care to dispute the point......

No it isn't......

I really do hate to disagree with you but, yes it is!!

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Nice to see a moderator get in on the trolling.

It's also nice to see that you admit this thread is being severely trolled........

[Gunnair]

jeff744 jeff744:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I know a guy who drives in the Stampede CW races. Ray Mitsuing and all I can say about him is he loves his horses like they were his kids. That guy shedding tears because he lost his was no show.

But that's impossible because he doesn't pad them with pillows and make sure they never leave the stable for their own safety.

Pity all you have left to bring here is the ability to argue like a child, Jeff.

[jeff744]

Gunnair Gunnair:

jeff744 jeff744:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I know a guy who drives in the Stampede CW races. Ray Mitsuing and all I can say about him is he loves his horses like they were his kids. That guy shedding tears because he lost his was no show.

But that's impossible because he doesn't pad them with pillows and make sure they never leave the stable for their own safety.

Pity all you have left to bring here is the ability to argue like a child, Jeff.

I'm just showing bad your arguments have been using a hyperbole, you're saying that using them in chuckwagons automatically disqualifies them from being loved like family, I am just pointing out that you don't have to protect them from danger to love them.

[Gunnair]

jeff744 jeff744:

Gunnair Gunnair:

jeff744 jeff744:

But that's impossible because he doesn't pad them with pillows and make sure they never leave the stable for their own safety.

Pity all you have left to bring here is the ability to argue like a child, Jeff.

I'm just showing bad your arguments have been using a hyperbole, you're saying that using them in chuckwagons automatically disqualifies them from being loved like family, I am just pointing out that you don't have to protect them from danger to love them.

Actually, you've then missed the point of the argument, Jeff..... again.

The point, if these owners loved them as family, was not that they protect them from danger as you suggest, it's that they would not go out of their way to expose them to danger.

Following yet?

[jeff744]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Actually, you've then missed the point of the argument, Jeff..... again.

The point, if these owners loved them as family, was not that they protect them from danger as you suggest, it's that they would not go out of their way to expose them to danger.

Following yet?

They aren't going out of their way though, it's just a race, what the horse was bought and raised for. They aren't loved like kids upon purchase, they become loved over the course of training, at that point you are wasting countless hours and thousands of dollars by not racing them. Trainers don't raise racing horses like robots so that when one dies it becomes a dollar sign, you do love them like children but they are still a racing horse, you just do everything you can to prevent injury and pray for the best.

[OnTheIce]

Hyack Hyack:

It's also nice to see that you admit this thread is being severely trolled........

Besides the two of you looking to 'yuk' it up, that's about all the trolling I see here.

I think everyone else here is debating the topic well.

[ShepherdsDog]

parents enroll their kids in gymnastics, motocross, diving and downhill skiing. They also take them hunting. All these activities have killed or crippled participants....did these parents love their children less than others do? personally i don't equate pets with family members. I've hand raised calves, stayed up at night with them when they were sick. They responded with 'affection'....didn't stop me from butchering and eating them a year later.

[Thanos]

None of this wussy talk prevented me from having a burger and a couple of dogs on the BBQ tonight.

[ShepherdsDog]

but you won't openly admit they were tofu.

[jeff744]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

parents enroll their kids in gymnastics, motocross, diving and downhill skiing. They also take them hunting. All these activities have killed or crippled participants....did these parents love their children less than others do? personally i don't equate pets with family members. I've hand raised calves, stayed up at night with them when they were sick. They responded with 'affection'....didn't stop me from butchering and eating them a year later.

To be fair, the calf was on the line to be butchered from the start, the horse was never intended to be killed so you can get a lot more attached, especially since it takes months of dedicated work to train a horse, but your individual time with a calf is relatively little.

[Zipperfish]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I'm with OTI on this one. Sure, there is abundant cruelty in slaughterhouses but at least the purpose is FOOD.

There is nothing noble or valuable in the killing and maiming of animals just for the entertainment of spectators. Chuckwagon races need to end.

Are you a vegetarian? Then you can bitch about a couple of hoses dying now and then. Otherwise, not.

And again, I have no problem with food animals dying. I just wish we'd have a little bit more respect for them when they're alive. As it is, we let the food companies pull the veil over everything so we can all have plausibile deniability about the ugly lives of food animals.

How about animal experiments? Fine with burning puppy dogs just to see what happens?

I'm just saying that if your concern with animals is that high, it would seem to me there are higher level targets than a couple of horses at the Stampede every year.

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

I've told you once.

[mentalfloss]

Stupid.

This event needs to go for the safety of those animals.

[Gunnair]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

I'm with OTI on this one. Sure, there is abundant cruelty in slaughterhouses but at least the purpose is FOOD.

There is nothing noble or valuable in the killing and maiming of animals just for the entertainment of spectators. Chuckwagon races need to end.

Are you a vegetarian? Then you can bitch about a couple of hoses dying now and then. Otherwise, not.

And again, I have no problem with food animals dying. I just wish we'd have a little bit more respect for them when they're alive. As it is, we let the food companies pull the veil over everything so we can all have plausibile deniability about the ugly lives of food animals.

How about animal experiments? Fine with burning puppy dogs just to see what happens?

I'm just saying that if your concern with animals is that high, it would seem to me there are higher level targets than a couple of horses at the Stampede every year.

Come on, Zip. I hope you don't shout out climate change warnings from the window of your Hummer....or your Geo.

I'm having a hard time seeing you boarding around Vancouver there, skate punk.

[jeff744]

mentalfloss mentalfloss:

Stupid.

This event needs to go for the safety of those animals.

Should we just do away with anything dangerous in the world while we're at it?