[saturn_656]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Circumcision isn't gentile mutilation. It's a word commonly thrown around from people with views such as yours.

Circumcision doesn't change the function of the penis, nor does it degrade it's appearance.

Comparing it to female circumcision is just plain ignorant.

mu·ti·late (mytl-t)
tr.v. mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple.
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably: mutilate a statue. See Synonyms at batter1.
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.

[DanSC]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

mu·ti·late (mytl-t)
tr.v. mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple.
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably: mutilate a statue. See Synonyms at batter1.
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.

Maybe you've been told it's imperfect, but I've only received rave reviews about my circumcised penis

I'm glad I'm circumcised. It's very low maintenance and if that area was any <i>more</i> sensitive, I probably wouldn't be able to function in society.

All of this is irrelevant to the topic of circumcising male newborns, but let's not turn this into a literal pissing match between sheathed and unsheathed bell-ends.

[saturn_656]

$1:

I'm glad I'm circumcised. It's very low maintenance and if that area was any <i>more</i> sensitive, I probably wouldn't be able to function in society.

Trust me, the so called "high maintenance" that comes with a uncut member is way overblown. Even by the so called medical professionals.

If you know how to bathe in the shower or bath, you can easily "maintain" your piece.

[DanSC]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

If you know how to bathe in the shower or bath, you can easily "maintain" your piece.

But you do realize that I'm a man, right?

[saturn_656]

DanSC DanSC:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

If you know how to bathe in the shower or bath, you can easily "maintain" your piece.

But you do realize that I'm a man, right?

Of course.

$1:

Maybe you've been told it's imperfect, but I've only received rave reviews about my circumcised penis

This gave it away.

[Zipperfish]

Brenda Brenda:

There is a little difference between taking off a little piece of skin, and half a vagina. Of course, when you compare female circumcision with removing a boys testicles or just half his penis (or his whole penis), you have a point. And for as far as I know, THAT is illegal.

Nanny state much? I always get a kick out of women think they know it all about male genital mutilation but get all huffy when the subject of female genital mutilation comes up.

$1:

We make many choices for our children, from the moment of conception (to abort or not abort is the first one).

"we"? I don't recall men ever being given a choice in abortion. Between a woman and her doctor and all that.

[Zipperfish]

peck420 peck420:

I just wanted to add that I am anti-circumcision...to a point.

I will never do it to my children, but I respect others rights to their own decisions.

However, it has never been proven to be medically necessary, so I do believe that it should be an elective procedure (consumer pays full cost) unless it is deemed necessary.

Tha articulately sums up my view also.

[Zipperfish]

DanSC DanSC:

I think we can all agree that female circumcision and male circumcision are very, very different. Female circumcision involves cutting off the hood and clitoris, where male circumcision doesn't involve cutting off the actual tip of the penis.

Wouldn't the hood of the clitoris be anatomically equivalent to the foreskin? Either way I bet it hurts.

[Brenda]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Brenda Brenda:

There is a little difference between taking off a little piece of skin, and half a vagina. Of course, when you compare female circumcision with removing a boys testicles or just half his penis (or his whole penis), you have a point. And for as far as I know, THAT is illegal.

Nanny state much? I always get a kick out of women think they know it all about male genital mutilation but get all huffy when the subject of female genital mutilation comes up.

Again, I personally do not give a crap whether a male is circumcised or not. Where I come from, it is hardly done, and certainly not tradition like it is here. Funny thing is, YOU don't know either, unless you had it done as an adult.

$1:

$1:

We make many choices for our children, from the moment of conception (to abort or not abort is the first one).

"we"? I don't recall men ever being given a choice in abortion. Between a woman and her doctor and all that.

So you did not choose to have a child? I did. Your wife did. I am sorry you just were dumped with one. Guess you were not part of creating your children, huh.

I also take it your wife had no say in circumcising your boys or not? Solely your decision? Either way, that is?

[Gunnair]

I think the point might be (wrt abortion) is that the guy may have an equal part in the creation but has zero say in the bringing it to term.

One of the reasons why I think that if they guy wants no part of it and the girl wants to keep it, then he should have no liability since if he wants to keep and the girl does not then that's the end of it.

[Unsound]

Brenda Brenda:

So you did not choose to have a child? I did. Your wife did. I am sorry you just were dumped with one. Guess you were not part of creating your children, huh.

I also take it your wife had no say in circumcising your boys or not? Solely your decision? Either way, that is?

Technically he's right. Men have no legal rights regarding whether or not a woman chooses to abort. As for circumcision, I didn't have to be present or sign a permission form or anything like that when my wife took the boy in to get snipped. She could've done it all on her own without any input from me.

[Brenda]

Unsound Unsound:

Brenda Brenda:

So you did not choose to have a child? I did. Your wife did. I am sorry you just were dumped with one. Guess you were not part of creating your children, huh.

I also take it your wife had no say in circumcising your boys or not? Solely your decision? Either way, that is?

Technically he's right. Men have no legal rights regarding whether or not a woman chooses to abort. As for circumcision, I didn't have to be present or sign a permission form or anything like that when my wife took the boy in to get snipped. She could've done it all on her own without any input from me.

If there is a father's name on the birth certificate, then there should be a signature from the father. Just saying.

Especially since there is not one from a doctor saying that it is medically necessary.

When my daughters tonsils were taken out, her father did not have to give his consent either. I was there in the hospital and the doctor I had seen numerous times performed the surgery...

[Brenda]

BTW, I find it very interesting that a woman can apparently not have an opinion about circumcision, while we are parents too. I guess I should also not give my sons sex ed, or buy him condoms then...

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

BTW, I find it very interesting that a woman can apparently not have an opinion about circumcision, while we are parents too. I guess I should also not give my sons sex ed, or buy him condoms then...

I don't know why that bothers you. Men have no say about aborting or not aborting a child and the sweet thing is, they're still financially liable.

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Brenda Brenda:

BTW, I find it very interesting that a woman can apparently not have an opinion about circumcision, while we are parents too. I guess I should also not give my sons sex ed, or buy him condoms then...

I don't know why that bothers you. Men have no say about aborting or not aborting a child and the sweet thing is, they're still financially liable.

Keep it in your pants or get snipped if you don't want kids. Not hard.

It bothers me because I am a parent. No one, not even their father, has the right to tell me what I should think about circumcision. We would make that decision together, not solely him. Same goes for pregnancy. WE decide that together. That is why it bothers ME personally.