[OnTheIce]

coaster_dot coaster_dot:

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people say "why do they have gay pride fest, straight people don't have straight pride fest". What they don't realize is that being straight is in it's self a luxury as it's considered the norm. This is always why some gay people feel the need to come out and say they are gay during an introduction with someone new...I sometimes do this myself. It is common to assume someone is straight, and just as a straight person would be offended of being called gay, a gay person can feel just as offended if assumed straight.

It should be normal and accepted, but it isn't. So until it is, gay people are going to continue to be outgoing about the issue. I get pissed off about homophobic people too, although I don't usually call them out on it. And until you are gay, you won't fully understand the reason why gay people like to accuse extreme homophobics of being gay themselves...because honestly theres a good chance it's true.

coaster,

The problem that many have in regards to the Pride Festivals is that homosexual people spend 364 days a year pushing towards more acceptance and more equality and these events highlight the fact that homosexual people are different.

A few years back I joined a good friend of mine, a gay man, at Pride in Toronto. I don't understand why they need to be half naked and in one case, a man was masturbating on a stage during an event with people cheering. WTF?.

Acceptance and views on people start when you're young and these events aren't something even suitable for most teenagers, let alone children, and feed many of the stereotypes that exist.

The other thing....just because heterosexuals find the idea of gay sex to be repulsive, doesn't make us any more homophobic than gay people finding straight sex to be gross. You're not a "heterophobe" if you don't like to see straight people having sex or kissing, but if you say the same about a gay couple, your a homophobe.

[ShepherdsDog]

@2 Cdo

sort of like what PeTA does for the animal abuse issues.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

Sorry Bart, but I was just teasing and not using it as a weapon, but I was trying to get a reaction.
Would it be better if I just accused you of not being normal?

No need to accuse me of something I freely admit.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

Gaydar seems to pick me up too, Brenda.
Damn frustrating, because I'd be getting way more action if I WAS gay.

Naw, more likely you'd just double your odds of rejection.

[Zipperfish]

Brenda Brenda:

I have been called gay before, I have been hit on by lesbians. Whatever floats their boat. It does not float mine, so, thanks, but no thanks. I'm still flattered tho

I never get hit on in gay bars and I walk out going like "What's wrong with me?"

[ShepherdsDog]

Yer jus' not purty enuff

[BartSimpson]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Brenda Brenda:

I have been called gay before, I have been hit on by lesbians. Whatever floats their boat. It does not float mine, so, thanks, but no thanks. I'm still flattered tho

I never get hit on in gay bars and I walk out going like "What's wrong with me?"

You're going to the wrong bars. Go to the lesbian bars and see if they don't pick up on you.

[Zipperfish]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I never get hit on in gay bars and I walk out going like "What's wrong with me?"

You're going to the wrong bars. Go to the lesbian bars and see if they don't pick up on you. [/quote]

Lesbians don't party like gay guys do. There used to be one dyke bar in Vancouver. They wouldn't even let men in. I did get in there (long story), and what a miserable place it was. They say men are gay because they love men, but women are gay because they hate men That place did not do much to dispel that idea.

In Vancouver, gay bars aren't even really gay. They might have started off that way, but then the girls started going because the gay guys were fun, and of course, where ever the girls go, the (straight) guys follow.

[raydan]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

raydan raydan:

Gaydar seems to pick me up too, Brenda.
Damn frustrating, because I'd be getting way more action if I WAS gay.

Naw, more likely you'd just double your odds of rejection.

Probably...

[Guy_Fawkes]

There is a bar in Fredericton called 'Boom' which is the exact same. Throughout the week you will be hard pressed to find a girl there but on friday and saturday nights they pack the house.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

coaster_dot coaster_dot:

From a gay perspective, straight people have the best luxury of living their personal life. Think about it, straight marriage is the norm. If you are a guy, and you see a girl you want to talk to it is normal for you to do so. If you happen to go out together, it is normal for you to to have a nice dinner together, hand holds on a walk, maybe kiss in a more private setting and no one will really think twice. And even further back to high school, taking a girl out to the dance and having her meet you parents for dinner is all normal. Now take two steps forward to marriage and life after marriage. A man and a women are in love, they get married, they invite their family, they have a kid, and everything is just...normal.

But if you are gay, none of these things are considered very normal in a typical society. But whats really the difference? I mean, a guy likes guys...until you come out you are living an unnatural life. This is something only a gay person can understand. The feeling of missing out some important life events growing up just because they are afraid of the reactions from those around them. Even when in an open minded community there are still limits that straight people don't even think twice about.

The reason why gay people have started to be more outgoing with there actions is because they have lived their whole life being closeted, confused, and depressed and once they come and be themselves they don't want to hear people say that they are not normal or that they should be excluded from certain rights or benefits. Gay people cannot change their orientation, so why should they be excluded from the same respect as other straight people, especially when there are other gay people to meet and live a happy life with.

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people say "why do they have gay pride fest, straight people don't have straight pride fest". What they don't realize is that being straight is in it's self a luxury as it's considered the norm. This is always why some gay people feel the need to come out and say they are gay during an introduction with someone new...I sometimes do this myself. It is common to assume someone is straight, and just as a straight person would be offended of being called gay, a gay person can feel just as offended if assumed straight.

It should be normal and accepted, but it isn't. So until it is, gay people are going to continue to be outgoing about the issue. I get pissed off about homophobic people too, although I don't usually call them out on it. And until you are gay, you won't fully understand the reason why gay people like to accuse extreme homophobics of being gay themselves...because honestly theres a good chance it's true.

Also, gay people are THE BEST at spotting out other gay people. There are certain actions that one does in the closeted stage that you will only pick up on if you did them yourself. While I never call people out, in my mind I feel really bad for other people who are still afraid to come out. This is why gay people like to hangout at gay bars or gay events, they like to feel accepted by people just like them.

/rant

oh man, THAT quote is fucking awesome

[FoxySky]

I've always thought harsh homophobes are deep in the closet, it's kind of like how really possesive jealous spouses are usually the first to run out and cheat on their mate.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

I believe it was the late Sam Kinison said it best when it came to violent homophobes. "I'm punching your face in cuz I'd rather be fuckin' yer ass."