[Freakinoldguy]

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Exactly my point, "B'! PRIVATE members clubs entitle the members to run the club any way they want.

Just don't bitch when people don't agree and pull away their sponsorship to your "private" club, or tell you you cannot participate in their public affairs.

If I was IBM and my CEO would not be treated like the previous CEO's, because of her gender(/race/sexual preference/religion), I would certainly take my business elsewhere. I, as a company, would not want to be a part of that kind of discriminatory/bigoted behaviour.

The CEO's of those companies answer to their stockholders regardless of their sex so, for them to pull out of possibly the premier golf event in the world would be utterly incomprehensible.

Given the money this event generates for the sponsors (think mini superbowl) i'm pretty sure you'd see a new CEO at the helm rather than have some spiteful female CEO pull the plug on all that shareholders money.

[Brenda]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Brenda Brenda:

I can understand the "women-only"-gyms tho.

One would hope that if you understand one single gender institution, you could understand all. Just insert [reason for it] here.

Ok, so just because some people like to go to the "single gender sauna", they should allow to not get a job because of their gender?

Lesbians do not allow men in their marriage. Gay men do not allow women in their marriage. Marriage is an institution. ALL single gender institutions are ok?

I dunno, goes a bit far.

Like I said before, if I owned a gym, I would offer 3 different types of work out sessions. Men only, women only, and mixed. Like ANY sauna does. And if they don't offer men only hours, then maybe there is no market for it.

[Brenda]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Exactly my point, "B'! PRIVATE members clubs entitle the members to run the club any way they want.

Just don't bitch when people don't agree and pull away their sponsorship to your "private" club, or tell you you cannot participate in their public affairs.

If I was IBM and my CEO would not be treated like the previous CEO's, because of her gender(/race/sexual preference/religion), I would certainly take my business elsewhere. I, as a company, would not want to be a part of that kind of discriminatory/bigoted behaviour.

The CEO's of those companies answer to their stockholders regardless of their sex so, for them to pull out of possibly the premier golf event in the world would be utterly incomprehensible.

Given the money this event generates for the sponsors (think mini superbowl) i'm pretty sure you'd see a new CEO at the helm rather than have some spiteful female CEO pull the plug on all that shareholders money.

You assume only men are shareholders.
Did you know that women STILL earn less than men, in the same function, with the same education and the same experience?

[Freakinoldguy]

Brenda Brenda:

[You assume only men are shareholders.
Did you know that women STILL earn less than men, in the same function, with the same education and the same experience?

Maybe I'm a neandrathal but at this stage of my life, I've given up spouting the bullshit about how I care about equal pay for equal work because the reality is that I don't anymore.

It's to bad, but now when ever I hear about some self centered woman or group of women demanding to be allowed inclusion at an all male facility while maintaining their own segregated bastions I can't help but think that they and their femnazi sisters are the architects of their own demise.

So if you really want equal pay for equal work take it up with Corporate America, the White House or Gloria Stienem and leave the people of Augusta National Golf club out of it

As for the female shareholders, from experience women just like most men will chose money over morals any day of the week and if they tell you different they're just plain lying.

[andyt]

WTF does equal pay have to do with the private club at Augusta? This topic seems to be spinning off all over. That private club can't just hire men or whites or what have you - employment laws prevent that. But they can limit their membership to anybody they want. And if the corps that sponsor the Masters think it will hurt their bottom line, they'll withdraw sponsorship, otherwise they wont - probably even a female CEO won't because she's more interested in the bottom line than being solid with her sisters.

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

Did you know that women STILL earn less than men, in the same function, with the same education and the same experience?

That's hardly true everywhere - specifically in the public sector.

[PluggyRug]

At my golf club there's a men's league and a women's league.

Once a year the women play the men (mixed foursome)and do OK.
Of course they play from the easy tee's.

Mind you it's non private.

[Brenda]

andyt andyt:

WTF does equal pay have to do with the private club at Augusta? This topic seems to be spinning off all over. That private club can't just hire men or whites or what have you - employment laws prevent that. But they can limit their membership to anybody they want. And if the corps that sponsor the Masters think it will hurt their bottom line, they'll withdraw sponsorship, otherwise they wont - probably even a female CEO won't because she's more interested in the bottom line than being solid with her sisters.

Of course it can. Women or blacks or gays or whatever just don't "meet the qualifications". It is not hard to spin it anyway they want, you know.

I, for one, couldn't care less about any club single gender or not. I just think it is as stupid as racism tho.

[Brenda]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

[You assume only men are shareholders.
Did you know that women STILL earn less than men, in the same function, with the same education and the same experience?

Maybe I'm a neandrathal but at this stage of my life, I've given up spouting the bullshit about how I care about equal pay for equal work because the reality is that I don't anymore.

It's to bad, but now when ever I hear about some self centered woman or group of women demanding to be allowed inclusion at an all male facility while maintaining their own segregated bastions I can't help but think that they and their femnazi sisters are the architects of their own demise.

So if you really want equal pay for equal work take it up with Corporate America, the White House or Gloria Stienem and leave the people of Augusta National Golf club out of it

As for the female shareholders, from experience women just like most men will chose money over morals any day of the week and if they tell you different they're just plain lying.

It goes both ways. All women "bastions" as you call it are just as much bullshit as all male, or all white, or all Asian.

I refuse to be called a "feminazi" however, just because I think all male clubs are from the '50, and not the 21st century.

[Gunnair]

Brenda Brenda:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

[You assume only men are shareholders.
Did you know that women STILL earn less than men, in the same function, with the same education and the same experience?

Maybe I'm a neandrathal but at this stage of my life, I've given up spouting the bullshit about how I care about equal pay for equal work because the reality is that I don't anymore.

It's to bad, but now when ever I hear about some self centered woman or group of women demanding to be allowed inclusion at an all male facility while maintaining their own segregated bastions I can't help but think that they and their femnazi sisters are the architects of their own demise.

So if you really want equal pay for equal work take it up with Corporate America, the White House or Gloria Stienem and leave the people of Augusta National Golf club out of it

As for the female shareholders, from experience women just like most men will chose money over morals any day of the week and if they tell you different they're just plain lying.

It goes both ways. All women "bastions" as you call it are just as much bullshit as all male, or all white, or all Asian.

I refuse to be called a "feminazi" however, just because I think all male clubs are from the '50, and not the 21st century.

What do you 'think' which would allow us to label your Dutchie self as a feminazi or, shall we call you a femtrooper?

[Freakinoldguy]

Brenda Brenda:

It goes both ways. All women "bastions" as you call it are just as much bullshit as all male, or all white, or all Asian.

I refuse to be called a "feminazi" however, just because I think all male clubs are from the '50, and not the 21st century.

That's your perogative and I may just be an outdated 1950's neandrathal but, in the sage words of that giant of male supremacy "I 'yams whats I ams, and dats all that I 'yams".

[Brenda]

A FEMTROOPER!!

"Brenda" will do

[Brenda]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

It goes both ways. All women "bastions" as you call it are just as much bullshit as all male, or all white, or all Asian.

I refuse to be called a "feminazi" however, just because I think all male clubs are from the '50, and not the 21st century.

That's your perogative and I may just be an outdated 1950's neandrathal but, in the sage words of that giant of male supremacy "I 'yams whats I ams, and dats all that I 'yams".

So you're ok with all male clubs, but not with all female clubs?

(Again, I think EITHER are outdated. I think any person should be allowed to be in any club which suits them. Hell, some women I know are more "manly" than some men I know and would fit in quite well... Just sayin!

[Gunnair]

Frankly, I have no issue with either. However, you don't see advocates screaming for boys to join the girl guides but you do see girls joining the boy scouts because feminazies have pushed hard enough for it. Not too long ago you saw the issue of girls wanting to join boys hockey teams. How well would it go over if some dude wanted to join a girls team?

It would not.

I'm all for gender restricted clubs, organizations and such, but I'm no fan of the feminist agenda of 'girls only' being alright but 'boys only' being sexist.

[Freakinoldguy]

Brenda Brenda:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Brenda Brenda:

It goes both ways. All women "bastions" as you call it are just as much bullshit as all male, or all white, or all Asian.

I refuse to be called a "feminazi" however, just because I think all male clubs are from the '50, and not the 21st century.

That's your perogative and I may just be an outdated 1950's neandrathal but, in the sage words of that giant of male supremacy "I 'yams whats I ams, and dats all that I 'yams".

So you're ok with all male clubs, but not with all female clubs?

(Again, I think EITHER are outdated. I think any person should be allowed to be in any club which suits them. Hell, some women I know are more "manly" than some men I know and would fit in quite well... Just sayin!

I'm okay with women only clubs, men only clubs, homosexual only clubs, lesbian only clubs, transgendered only clubs and for the denuded males, metrosexual only clubs.

The only thing I have a problem with is when a certain segment of society wants their cake and eat it to and our poltically correct society is so fouled up it goes along with them.