[Gunnair]

RUEZ RUEZ:

The only thing I can take some solace in, is when all these city slickers who think gas should be 2.00 per liter are scrounging to try and buy groceries at Walmart. I'll be growing all my own food on my acreage for a lot less. So the next time some ass tells me he loves to see the price of gas go up, I'll remind him that soon he'll be able to fit in his skinny jeans.

You've gone from an understandable complaint against the government to a broad flinging of the brush against all of those who don't mind seeing joe lunchbox in his duellie or tricked out F250 paying extra to commute everyday in their gas guzzler.

Enjoy your second vehicle and quite complaining how it ultimately costs you less instead of driving your truck to work.

[RUEZ]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Enjoy your second vehicle and quite complaining how it ultimately costs you less instead of driving your truck to work.

I'll tell you what, I'll stop complaining when you do.

[Gunnair]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Enjoy your second vehicle and quite complaining how it ultimately costs you less instead of driving your truck to work.

I'll tell you what, I'll stop complaining when you do.

Oh, I'll take that wager...

[herbie]

I drive my 4x4 pickup truck all day. With only me in it. Four blocks to the Post Office. Ten to work. Sometimes all the way to Prince George and back all alone just for a box of paper. Sometimes just for a cruise.
Fuck off. Raise the carbon tax, who cares.

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I might agree if BC didn't already have a carbon tax - one carbon tax is plenty. Translink should be asking the province for a hand-out, not individuals.

The BC carbon tax goes into general revenue. The province is running a deficit - they've got no money to give out. Translink is trying to find revenue sources within its jurisdiction. I don't get the carbon tax idea, just tax gas/diesel to raise the money. That way people who drive the most in the most fuel sucking vehicles pay the most.

Translink is another mess the BC Liberals (Conservatives) have created to try to avoid any blowback by pretending it's not a government agency. It doesn't have good sources of raising revenue except the property tax. It's very inefficient and not really accountable to voters. There must be a better way to do this.

As for raising transit fares - that's also in the works, happens every year. But drivers don't begin to pay for the costs of roads with their gas taxes, the subsidy for a driver is much higher than a transit user, so if transit fares should reflect the true cost of transit, then gas taxes should reflect the true cost of roads. I can just hear the screaming now. Like stuck pigs. (Of course other taxes could go down, since roads are funded out of general revenue).

This is one of the joys of runaway immigration. We have more and more people trying to crowd into Metro Vancouver. Since many immigrants don't earn much money, they are forced to live way out in the suburbs by the high housing prices in Vancouver (caused the the rich foreigners buying a foothold in in Vancouver for when they've fucked up their own country) So you have more and more people on the same roads, causing way more congestion.

Meanwhile the Liberals (Conservatives) have lowered taxes to the point there's no money in the kitty to pay for decent transit and road improvements. Right now they are caught because they built a new bridge under the P3 model based on tolls. People in the burbs are just now waking up to the fact this bridge will cost them $1000 a year or more to commute to Vancouver, and there's not realistic other option. These people in the burbs vote Liberal, but they're not happy. And the piper needs to be paid. Good luck with that, Christie Crunch.

[bootlegga]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Not nearly as retarded as someone who can't read...

The carbon tax as a whole was/is the retarded idea....but thanks for the effort.

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Amazingly enough, some people that drive trucks alone, use them to make a living.

Another retarded idea.

Nice try...

Doesn't seem to be any mention of carbon tax there - just some tard griping that he might have to pay a few extra bucks to drive his pick-up to and from work.

[bootlegga]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Here's the thing. A lot of people like myself need a truck for around the acreage. However many people can't afford to have a truck and a car. I was reluctantly forced to purchase a small car a couple of weeks ago because I just couldn't afford the 60km daily commute in my truck. However I still need that truck so now I must keep insurance on both and maintain both because my government thinks I should take transit to the middle of buttfuck nowhere BC. Fuck you Gordon Campbell.

Yeah, under my 'idea', farmers and rural folk who actually need a truck wouldn't pay a penny extra. Same goes for contractors, businesses, etc. The extra fees would come from those who just WANT a pick-up (or any gas guzzling V-8) to drive around town in, not those who need a pick-up.

[Brenda]

So, we went from "why the hell should someone driving in Revelstoke pay for the rising costs of a transit system in the lower mainland" to "it's all the immigrants fault, they don't make enough money to cover tax revenue".

Nice.

[OnTheIce]

bootlegga bootlegga:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Not nearly as retarded as someone who can't read...

The carbon tax as a whole was/is the retarded idea....but thanks for the effort.

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Amazingly enough, some people that drive trucks alone, use them to make a living.

Another retarded idea.

Nice try...

Doesn't seem to be any mention of carbon tax there - just some tard griping that he might have to pay a few extra bucks to drive his pick-up to and from work.

Besides the topic of the entire post you mean? The whole reason why this topic exists?

I've never owned a truck,....as I said, I was just pointing out the fact that some people who drive trucks, aren't just doing so for pleasure or commuting and that the idea of a carbon tax is a retarded idea.

If you think I meant otherwise, I'd be careful throwing around the 'tard word.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Jesus OTI, are you having comprehension issues this week? Read Boots' post again. There's a very specific qualifier, or proviso if you will, about which truck owners should get nailed with the extra carbon tax. Here's a hint: it AIN'T farm or commercial use truck owners.

[OnTheIce]

Bruce_E_T Bruce_E_T:

RUEZ RUEZ:

It's frustrating when you see BC place get a new retractable roof, but we have a shortage of doctors in Northern BC. I know of atleast two emergency rooms that have locked their doors due to lack of staffing. I pay the same medical premiums as the people in Southern BC.

I quite understand. Toronto has the CN Tower, Air Canada Centre, Metro Convention Centre. Rodgers Centre, Royal Ontario Museum, Rosedale etc while everyone else, esp in the north, go without. Not only that but their own city is falling apart. They are running about 1300 water main breaks a year and have droves of high rise apartments that were built in the 50's and 60's.

What a load of crap that is.

You're criticize places in Toronto that bring tourism and jobs to Ontario....Tax dollars to Ontario.

People don't come to Ontario to spend money in butt-fuck-nowhere, they come to major urban areas and drop tons of money.

Be happy that major urban areas all over Canada help support small-town Canada because your tax dollars certainly aren't enough!

[OnTheIce]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

Jesus OTI, are you having comprehension issues this week? Read Boots' post again. There's a very specific qualifier, or proviso if you will, about which truck owners should get nailed with the extra carbon tax. Here's a hint: it AIN'T farm or commercial use truck owners.

I don't give a fuck about that.

I'm speaking specifically about his insinuation about single people in trucks are just there for commuting.

$1:

It's just ridiculous how many huge V8-engined pick-ups I see here in Edmonton with only one passenger driving to and from work.

[Lemmy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Yeah, under my 'idea', farmers and rural folk who actually need a truck wouldn't pay a penny extra. Same goes for contractors, businesses, etc. The extra fees would come from those who just WANT a pick-up (or any gas guzzling V-8) to drive around town in, not those who need a pick-up.

How do you define "need"? I don't "need" my Tundra every day, nor as part of my job, per se. But I need it when I want to go up north fishing. I need it when I want to move my boat trailer. I need it when I have to make a trip to the dump. I need it to get to work in bad weather 'cause I live in the sticks an hour from campus.

Distinguishing between work, farm and pleasure vehicles is already an abused system. The guy in town here that owns the multi-million dollar feed mill drives a $100K Escalade with farm plates on it. Yeah, that's a farm vehicle alright.

A carbon tax needs to have as broad an incidence as possible to be effective. If we're going to go that route, there should be no exemptions. You use more carbon, you pay more tax. Period.

[Brenda]

Commuter cars pay more in insurance too. Which is weird, since I drive all day, but my neighbour only drives from and to work.

[andyt]

Brenda Brenda:

So, we went from "why the hell should someone driving in Revelstoke pay for the rising costs of a transit system in the lower mainland" to "it's all the immigrants fault, they don't make enough money to cover tax revenue".

Nice.

They shouldn't, and they won't. This is Translink, AFAIK, these would be levies within the Translink area - we already have that.

Immigrants drove up the price of housing, and immigrants are clogging the roads. They don't make enough money to afford accommodation in Vancouver, so they have to live in the burbs and commute every day. The tax revenue is insufficient because the Liberals set it up that way - cut taxes to the bone but then government services suffer. You know, welfare services like transit and roads.