[Goober911]

11.10 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOPOdstx-4#t=670

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/world ... de-package

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State John F. Kerry strongly criticized Palestinian leaders on Sunday for rejecting a cease-fire plan, but he also appeared — in comments captured by a live microphone — to express exasperation with the high cost in civilian lives as Israel pressed its ground attack on Gaza.

Mr. Kerry, who was expected to leave shortly for the region, was at the start of a scheduled sweep of the five major network television programs when, during a break in one of them, “Fox News Sunday,” he spoke by cellphone to an unidentified aide, according to Fox.

Chris Wallace, the Fox interviewer, confronted Mr. Kerry with a tape of those remarks during his appearance on that channel. In it, Mr. Kerry is heard to say: “It’s a hell of a pinpoint operation. It’s a hell of a pinpoint operation. We’ve got to get over there. Thank you, John. I think, John, we ought to go tonight. I think it’s crazy to be sitting around.”

[redhatmamma]

Goober911 Goober911:

/hamas_is_destroying_gaza_the_palestinian_militant_organization_is_sacrificing.html

Problem is he is a far right and far from impartial.[/quote]
Doesn't matter, is he wrong ?

The video of Bill Maher is actually quite telling as Maher isn't usually someone I agree with, but he's essentially making the same case. Is Maher wrong too?

[Goober911]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Goober911 Goober911:

/hamas_is_destroying_gaza_the_palestinian_militant_organization_is_sacrificing.html

Problem is he is a far right and far from impartial.

Doesn't matter, is he wrong ?

The video of Bill Maher is actually quite telling as Maher isn't usually someone I agree with, but he's essentially making the same case. Is Maher wrong too?[/quote]
Krautenhanner is more your type.
And finding when Bill agrees with you he is a fountain of truth is that correct?

[desertdude]

Wafa hospital as mentioned in my post yesterday and in Jon Snow's report has been demolished now by Israeli bombardment, how is flattening a brain and spin injury hospital called self defense ?

http://www.channel4.com/news/gaza-hamas ... a-hospital


As for Bill Maher, Frankie says it best.

[wildrosegirl]

That's just blatant cowardice.

All of the unrest right now. Makes you wonder if we're heading back into the Dark Ages.

[Goober911]

It is called collective punishment.
That is a War Crime.
Not only I but many that knew him lost a friend by an Israeli so called accidental bombing.
They have these positions nailed down to the meter.
This was deliberate.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/un ... w-1.703087

[Goober911]

If true Hamas now has the bargaining chip they wanted.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/20/world ... ?hpt=hp_t1

Gaza City (CNN) -- Hamas claimed it captured an Israeli soldier Sunday on the deadliest day yet in the battle between Israel and Hamas militants in Gaza.

The solider was taken during an early morning operation, according to Abu Obeida, a spokesman for Hamas' military wing, al-Qassam Brigades.

He provided the supposed soldier's name and ID.

"He is a prisoner, and if Zionists lie about the dead and wounded, then the fate of this soldier is their responsibility," the spokesman said.

[MeganC]

desertdude desertdude:

Wafa hospital as mentioned in my post yesterday and in Jon Snow's report has been demolished now by Israeli bombardment, how is flattening a brain and spin injury hospital called self defense?

So what do you call shooting missiles into Israel during a cease fire?

[BRAH]

MeganC MeganC:

desertdude desertdude:

Wafa hospital as mentioned in my post yesterday and in Jon Snow's report has been demolished now by Israeli bombardment, how is flattening a brain and spin injury hospital called self defense?

So what do you call shooting missiles into Israel during a cease fire?

Now you've done it there will be endless thread pages of Hamas propaganda.

IDF Publishes Video of Hamas Shooting from within Homes

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/idf-publishes-video-hamas-shooting-within-homes-video
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Nothing to see here but Israeli propaganda move along.

[Newsbot]

Title: Gaza conflict: France criticises 'anti-Semitic' riot
Category: World
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2014-07-21 07:57:03

[martin14]

Welcome back to the 30's.

[Goober911]

MeganC MeganC:

desertdude desertdude:

Wafa hospital as mentioned in my post yesterday and in Jon Snow's report has been demolished now by Israeli bombardment, how is flattening a brain and spin injury hospital called self defense?

So what do you call shooting missiles into Israel during a cease fire?

Well the rockets disrupt Israel. 1 killed by a mortar round prior to this Operation.
What would you call this.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-confl ... -1.2712869

Oh yeah, not 1 comment on the Canadian Major deliberately killed by Israel.
Hmm, makes a man wonder it do, yep, really wonder.

[Zipperfish]

Goober911 Goober911:

It is called collective punishment.
That is a War Crime.
Not only I but many that knew him lost a friend by an Israeli so called accidental bombing.
They have these positions nailed down to the meter.
This was deliberate.

To my mind, whether it was deliberate or not is not particularly relevant. Intent is a state of mind that can be neither proved nor disproved. Actual events speak for themselves. What the actors in this conflict should be judged upon is their actions, not the intent.

[andyt]

Since WWII civilians always take the brunt of any war - far more killed than soldiers. Ridiculous to pretend otherwise. No way the Israelis can lob shells into Gaza without killing civilians. The question is are they justified in doing so by self-defense. My position is that neither side can claim to be the innocent victims here.

[Goober911]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Goober911 Goober911:

It is called collective punishment.
That is a War Crime.
Not only I but many that knew him lost a friend by an Israeli so called accidental bombing.
They have these positions nailed down to the meter.
This was deliberate.

To my mind, whether it was deliberate or not is not particularly relevant. Intent is a state of mind that can be neither proved nor disproved. Actual events speak for themselves. What the actors in this conflict should be judged upon is their actions, not the intent.

The kids murdered on the beach. And just back from the beach is a hotel used by foreign journalists.
Some who responded with first aid.
Bombing a hospital?
It looks and walks like collective punishment.