[martin14]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

But hey, "Nothing to do with Islam", of course.

Nothing at all.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30848689


Pakistan clashes over Hebdo cartoon


They were trying to get into the consulate, no doubt to buy a copy of Charlie Hebdo
and express their forgiveness over the actions of their Islamic brothers.

[martin14]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30860064

Europe on high alert over terrorist threat


The next step in the police state is on the way...

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The head of Europol, Rob Wainwright, told the BBC that the need for tightened security across Europe highlighted the complex nature of the terrorist threat in the region.

"We're dealing with multiple thousands of potential terrorists," he told the BBC World Service.

Dozens.

Hundreds.

Oh, a couple thousand now.

[Unsound]

I wonder if the islamist know much history? It seems they think that Europeans are naturally meek. The last few decades would seem to to support that idea, but history shows that killing people is kind of a Euro speciality. I think they're in for a nasty surprise if they push too hard. The only thing that's been holding Europe back imo is that they were deeply scarred by the horrors of the 2 world wars. As those horrors fade into history and out of memory I think they'll find a new generation more willing to show the world exactly how European culture took over the world.

[ShepherdsDog]

Now, now. This has nothing to do with Islam.

[ShepherdsDog]

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but history shows that killing people is kind of a Euro speciality

Killing coloured folk is the second most favourite past time of whites. Our favourite past time is killing other whiteys in the tens of millions over really trivial matters. No, the holy spirit comes from the Father and the Son.....no, it comes from the Father only......no, the wine and host are merely representative of the body and blood iof Christ.....you pray to God on Sunday, not Friday.....Blond hair blue eyed people living on this side of the river are racially superior to blond haired blue eyed people living on the other side of the river.

[martin14]

Oh looky, it just arrived, didn't take long.


Armed soldiers on the streets now.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30860064

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Troops have been deployed across Belgium to guard potential targets of terrorist attacks, following a series of anti-terror raids and arrests.

Up to 300 soldiers will be mobilised in Brussels, Antwerp and elsewhere.

Belgium's interior minister told the BBC that his country had to make use of all the forces at its disposal.

Europe is on high alert after Islamist gunmen killed 17 people in Paris. More than 20 people have been arrested in Belgium, France and Germany.

Uniformed soldiers could be seen outside Jewish schools and government buildings in Belgium on Saturday.

France is doing the same, up to 10,000 soldiers will be used.

That's about a division, right ?

[N_Fiddledog]

Apparently our problem is we don't realize who the real victims are.

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'My husband is the victim' says British-based wife of Al Qaeda leader who radicalised Charlie Hebdo killers

The wife of the Al Qaeda chief who radicalised the Charlie Hebdo killers has claimed he is a ‘victim’.



Sylvie Beghal, 45, who lives on benefits in Leicester, declared her husband Djamel Beghal a ‘hostage’ after he was put in solitary confinement following the terror attacks.

She moaned that French officers broke his prison television and spilled his coffee while investigating his connection to the massacre.



Djamel Beghal – one of Al Qaeda’s top recruiters in Europe – is said to have radicalised Paris killers Amedy Coulibaly and Chérif Kouachi in a French prison and organised crossbow training for Hayat Boumeddiene, now the world’s most wanted woman.

His wife, meanwhile, is believed to have cost British taxpayers more than a quarter of a million pounds in handouts since moving to the UK for its ‘Islamic environment’.

‘Djamel is under huge amounts of pressure,’ she complained after the Paris attacks. ‘They turned the cell upside down, wasted all of his supplies, mixing up all his sugar, pasta and coffee on the floor. They opened up the TV in a hateful and vengeful manner....

[andyt]

Unsound Unsound:

I wonder if the Islamist know much history? It seems they think that Europeans are naturally meek. The last few decades would seem to to support that idea, but history shows that killing people is kind of a Euro specialty. I think they're in for a nasty surprise if they push too hard. The only thing that's been holding Europe back imo is that they were deeply scarred by the horrors of the 2 world wars. As those horrors fade into history and out of memory I think they'll find a new generation more willing to show the world exactly how European culture took over the world.

The problem is that there are not countries to go out and fight. Especially with the homegrown terrorists, but even the ones that just sneak into the country. Moron Bush showed the error of blasting away at a country that actually had nothing to do with promoting terrorism - ISIS is the direct result of that error. Astan - how effective have we been there? OTOH, no country seems willing to touch Saudi Arabia, the original source of that vile ideology.

So, you can't just roll out the tanks and go at it. What do you do with people interspersed with your population? The horrors of the holocaust are also deeply scarred in Europe's psyche, I don't think they will be going there, thank God. Clamping down, reducing individual liberties, they'll do that. It's a very dangerous game that will do more harm than good. Europe also knows a thing or two about state control, both left and right, and that never comes out well either.

The best hope is to make allies of the majority peaceful muslims. Like those neighbors of the Kouachi brothers, who found their cache of arms, but were threatened into not reporting to police. If those neighbors had trusted the police more, and been assured they would be protected, this whole thing could have been prevented. As I say, carrot and stick. The greater society needs to offer Muslims the carrot of full participation in society, something that is certainly an issue in France. Barriers need to be taken down so their young men can get and education and get jobs with that education. Give them something to lose. And, where Islamic intolerance rears its head, quit with the pc stuff and stomp on it. Do the broken windows thing, where even small infractions are dealt with, not ignored. Women harassed by Muslim dickheads? Arrest those dickheads. No go zones - that's a no go. etc.


But also, we have shootings every day. Just because the perps don't yell Allahu Akbar, nobody gives a rats ass. What was done after Sandy Hook or the Hollywood shooter? What are we doing to clamp down on Canadians after Justin Bourque or Mayerthorpe, or even Ecole Polytechnique? Those are just accepted as normal costs of living in a free society that allows civilians access to arms. It's only if somebody is doing it in the name of Islam that we want to get all police state. People have pointed out you just can't prevent all terror attacks - we couldn't before Islamic terror raised it's head either. And rolling tanks over the middle east isn't going to reduce the incidence of terror attacks. As has been said, the whole aim of terrorism is to get society to flip out.

[martin14]

andyt andyt:

The best hope is to make allies of the majority peaceful muslims. Like those neighbors of the Kouachi brothers, who found their cache of arms, but were threatened into not reporting to police. If those neighbors had trusted the police more, and been assured they would be protected, this whole thing could have been prevented. As I say, carrot and stick. The greater society needs to offer Muslims the carrot of full participation in society, something that is certainly an issue in France. Barriers need to be taken down so their young men can get and education and get jobs with that education. Give them something to lose. And, where Islamic intolerance rears its head, quit with the pc stuff and stomp on it. Do the broken windows thing, where even small infractions are dealt with, not ignored. Women harassed by Muslim dickheads? Arrest those dickheads. No go zones - that's a no go. etc.

You have amply demonstrated just how little you know about the whole situation if you think
any of any hasn't already been tried .. and failed.

You should really stop posting in this thread, and stop embarrassing yourself.

[andyt]

You say it's been tried, others, whose judgement and information I trust far more say no. Are you really saying that Muslims have been welcomed with open arms in France, and the only reason the live in ghettos and don't have jobs is because that's what they want? (I shouldn't really ask the question since the your answer is obvious and just demonstrates your bias an ignorance.)

[martin14]

No andy, the only ignorant POS in here is you.
You know absolutely jack shit about European history, law, and customs.

France is a Socialist country, very similiar in many ways the former Warsaw Pact.
I lived in the system that failed to integrate gypsies, and France having the same tools,
failed as well.

They spent money you could only dream about, forced their own populations into all kinds
of crap no one wanted, and pushed a lot of pie in the sky bullshit
Worker's Brotherhood and Egalite.

Minority groups either want to integrate, or they don't.
The results speak for themselves.


So you keep reading your retarded left wing idiots who know even less than you.

[martin14]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30863985

Paris attacks: Gunman Said Kouachi given unmarked grave

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One of the brothers who launched a deadly attack against French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has been buried in an unmarked grave.

Said Kouachi was buried secretly late on Friday in the eastern city of Reims, where he had lived before the attack.

The mayor of Reims said he had opposed the burial, fearing a grave could become a shrine, but had been forced to accept it by law.

Attacks in Paris killed 17 people last week, 12 of them at Charlie Hebdo.

On 9 January, two days after attacking the magazine, Said Kouachi and his younger brother Cherif were killed by police at an industrial estate north of Paris.

Cherif Kouachi is expected to be buried in his hometown of Gennevilliers, outside Paris.

Earlier in the week, Reims mayor Arnaud Robinet said he would "categorically refuse" a family request for Said Kouachi to be buried in the city.

He said he did not want "a tomb that could become a shrine for people to gather around or a pilgrimage site for fanatics".

But on Saturday he said he had been forced by the government to accept the burial. "He was buried last night, in the most discreet, anonymous way possible," he told French TV.

That's really too bad.

They should change the law, cremation and fishfood only, let the jihadis and other serious criminals,
and their families, think about that before they go all yahoooo.

It's like you never existed.

[Jabberwalker]

martin14 martin14:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30863985

Paris attacks: Gunman Said Kouachi given unmarked grave

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One of the brothers who launched a deadly attack against French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has been buried in an unmarked grave.

Said Kouachi was buried secretly late on Friday in the eastern city of Reims, where he had lived before the attack.

The mayor of Reims said he had opposed the burial, fearing a grave could become a shrine, but had been forced to accept it by law.

Attacks in Paris killed 17 people last week, 12 of them at Charlie Hebdo.

On 9 January, two days after attacking the magazine, Said Kouachi and his younger brother Cherif were killed by police at an industrial estate north of Paris.

Cherif Kouachi is expected to be buried in his hometown of Gennevilliers, outside Paris.

Earlier in the week, Reims mayor Arnaud Robinet said he would "categorically refuse" a family request for Said Kouachi to be buried in the city.

He said he did not want "a tomb that could become a shrine for people to gather around or a pilgrimage site for fanatics".

But on Saturday he said he had been forced by the government to accept the burial. "He was buried last night, in the most discreet, anonymous way possible," he told French TV.

That's really too bad.

They should change the law, cremation and fishfood only, let the jihadis and other serious criminals,
and their families, think about that before they go all yahoooo.

It's like you never existed.

Mail the remains to the Yemeni embassy ... if they have one.

[andyt]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Mail the remains to the Yemeni embassy ... if they have one.

Yemen is subject to far more attacks by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula than France. (That is the proper name of Al Qaeda in Yemen, so it's curious the Kouachis used the old name). So If you're saying that Yemen is responsible for this attack, you may be mistaken.

[Jabberwalker]

You have do know your Yemeni, I grant you.