[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

romanP romanP:

Why don't you go work in China then?

I am in a couple of weeks, 3 GM plants in China. You know the jobs that won't be in Canada or the USA in about 2 years.

Ah, so China does care!

[hwacker]

romanP romanP:

hwacker hwacker:

romanP romanP:

It's all the same planet, and we're all people, dummy. Do you honestly think that if Canada has more children, it won't affect the rest of the world? The laws of thermodynamics transcend political borders.

You're insane. get out of Canada and see the world before you yap.

No, I'm quite sane, and certain that we are living on the same planet, with the same people. If you are unsure of this, I suggest you take a look outside. If you are unsure of the laws of thermodynamics, I would like to sell you my plans for a perpetual motion machine.

You keep throwing around these big words and phrases, my head hurts.


Stop trying to be an intellectual, you’re far from it.

[Brenda]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

Brenda Brenda:

There are a lot of kids waiting for an adoptive family. At least here. I see commercials for it on tv every day

Then again, it is not up to anyone else but me what I do with my body. Maybe I can't handle carrying a child, there are a lot of reasons why women choose for abortion instead of carrying to term and give away. Maybe you think their reasons are not valid, to them, they are.

I'd rather see no abortions at all, but that is Utopia. If you can't have it done legally, women will use knitting pins again. That is not a real option either. So being able to have it done clean and with little risk, sounds better to me than dirty, in some kind of backroom, by someone who has no clue, or women (girls) doing it to themselves...

Actually Brenda I think if abortion was illegal I think there would be millionsof babies born and given up for adoption. While you may see the rare knitting needle incident most people would start to accept resposibility for their actions.

I don't agree with you. Pregnant women who don't want their babies are mostly desperate. Desperate women with raging hormones do weird things... Carrying it to term and giving it away is for a lot of them not an option... They rather keep it after all, and have 2 people live a miserable life, than give it away... Ever seen an unwanted child?

[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

romanP romanP:

So, life doesn't actually matter to you, you're just being a selfish prick.

Yep thats me, I care about where my people came from and are, thats it. the rest can pound salt

Right, so why are you here, and why bother arguing about anything? Go away, troll.

[Zipperfish]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

I have to leave this discussion. I am getting angry and will not play nice when I get home. Have a great day everyone!

You? Angry? Nahhhhh. Take care buddy.

[romanP]

CanAm1 CanAm1:

Actually Brenda I think if abortion was illegal I think there would be millionsof babies born and given up for adoption. While you may see the rare knitting needle incident most people would start to accept resposibility for their actions.

Unfortunately, you're only thinking of one end of the equation. Giving lots of babies up for adoption is a noble idea, but who is going to adopt them? If there is not enough demand for adopted children, we would be doing no better than running a puppy mill.

You would rather that women are forced to make an unsafe choice, with no counselling, rather than being provided with medical and emotional assistance for a difficult decision, for your own selfish, emotional self-given burden?

[Brenda]

lily lily:

A newborn is also pretty useless and what 5 year old has contributed anything to the world?

Some 40 year olds too, for that matter.

[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

Brenda Brenda:

then why are you so oposed to abortion, if you don't care at all? Obviously, you don't care about the women, nor about the fetuses.

What is it to you?

He's talking about war and how i should care about the other side. i've stated my ground as to why.

You either care about human lives or you don't. It doesn't matter if they're in stuck in the middle of a battlefield they didn't choose to be in.

[romanP]

hwacker hwacker:

romanP romanP:

No, I'm quite sane, and certain that we are living on the same planet, with the same people. If you are unsure of this, I suggest you take a look outside. If you are unsure of the laws of thermodynamics, I would like to sell you my plans for a perpetual motion machine.

You keep throwing around these big words and phrases, my head hurts.

Stop trying to be an intellectual, you’re far from it.

So you admit your astounding ignorance!

[romanP]

lily lily:

romanP romanP:

lily lily:

I had to think about what antithesis meant and work through the double negatives.

There aren't any double negatives.

$1:

If war is the antithesis of the anti-abortion stance, does it follow that it's the equal to the pro-abortion stance?

No, because civilians do not have much choice about living in a warzone.

Neither do aborted babies.

You're right, aborted babies do not have much choice about living in a warzone. But, they're aborted, so why would they care?

$1:

War and abortion have absolutely nothing to do with each other. It was only brought up because of certain people in this discussion, but the comparison doesn't hold true for all of us,

They do have something to do with each other if a large portion of so-called pro-life people are also pro-war.

$1:

so I suggest you drop it and move on.

No. I will not drop the subject just because it makes you uncomfortable.

[romanP]

lily lily:

romanP romanP:

CanAm1 CanAm1:

Actually Brenda I think if abortion was illegal I think there would be millionsof babies born and given up for adoption. While you may see the rare knitting needle incident most people would start to accept resposibility for their actions.

Unfortunately, you're only thinking of one end of the equation. Giving lots of babies up for adoption is a noble idea, but who is going to adopt them? If there is not enough demand for adopted children, we would be doing no better than running a puppy mill.

Do you have any idea what the waiting list is like to adopt a baby?

I would imagine that no matter how long it is, it is still not enough to satisfy an abortion pool of millions of babies. However, it is probably most likely that the waiting list for adoption is long because the process of adoption is also long, not because there are not enough children waiting to be adopted.

[romanP]

lily lily:

romanP romanP:

lily lily:

Neither do aborted babies.

You're right, aborted babies do not have much choice about living in a warzone. But, they're aborted, so why would they care?

I think you know that's not what I meant.

Oh, you caught me. Well, aborted babies don't have much choice about anything. They didn't even choose to be a baby.

$1:

Some of us who don't believe in abortion on demand are also rather outspoken against Capital punishment and ridiculous wars. How's about you address that? Oh... you can't, becasue it doesn't fit the point you're trying to make.

Yes, that's right, I'm addressing a specific portion of so-called pro-lifers. Let's not get into another argument about how you think that because you don't do something must mean nobody else does either.

[Wally_Sconce]

The pro baby-killer crowd says it's all about 'choice'....

what about your choice to spread your legs in the first place?

what about your choice to have recreational sex instead of sex to concieve?

what about your choice to have unprotected sex?

what about your choice to have improperly protected sex? Condoms break, they always have, they always will.

what about your choice to not use the morning after pill?

what about your choice to have vaginal sex, when your significant other has been wanting to turn you over for quite some time?

what about your choice not to give him a blow job instead?

......guys, help me out. I'm sure I'm forgeting some of them.

[Brenda]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

The pro baby-killer crowd says it's all about 'choice'....

what about your choice to spread your legs in the first place?

what about your choice to have recreational sex instead of sex to concieve?

what about your choice to have unprotected sex?

what about your choice to have improperly protected sex? Condoms break, they always have, they always will.

what about your choice to not use the morning after pill?

what about your choice to have vaginal sex, when your significant other has been wanting to turn you over for quite some time?

what about your choice not to give him a blow job instead?

......guys, help me out. I'm sure I'm forgeting some of them.

What about YOUR choice to keep your dick in your pants?

I already covered this. Didn't you read?

[Wally_Sconce]

I have no choice.

if its made available, I'll hit it.

if a child is born, I'll be put on maintenance.