[Robair]

commanderkai commanderkai:

$1:

Yes the corporations will make money selling farmer's grain. That is money that used to be returned to farmers by their wheat board.

Except farmers will be making money on selling their grain to the various corporations, leading to competition and better prices for farmers, since they don't have to sell to one entity. Pretty basic economics here.

You are replacing a board that returned every cent minus operating expenses to farmers, with competing corporations that must turn profits. That send every cent they can to share holders (instead of back to farmers). I can't explain it any simpiler than that. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. I'm starting to think you are just trying to piss me off.

Basic economics for sure.

[Bruce_E_T]

Robair Robair:

You are replacing a board that returned every cent minus operating expenses to farmers, with competing corporations that must turn profits. That send every cent they can to share holders (instead of back to farmers). I can't explain it any simpiler than that. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. I'm starting to think you are just trying to piss me off.

Basic economics for sure.

I am not an expert in either grain marketing or economics but it seems to me that this privatization will result in higher prices to the consumer. This new profit cost has to surface somewhere.

Memo in the back of my mind is noting the role role of insurance companies in the US "Health Care System".

Also does this not toss the farmers into commodity speculators? Possibly we would be better off just letting farmers farm.

[Canadian_Mind]

Yogi Yogi:

I didn't answer a question which I thought has an obvious answer, but here's 'my take' on it. Viterra and Richardson will make their money by reselling the grain they buy from the farmers.

Yogi, you said you weren't trying to bait before, but you are clearly being daft here.

If the CWB did it's very best to maximize the dollar amount farmers received. In order for the new companies to make money, they will have to do one of two things, if not both: Buy grain at reduced rates (didn't the CWB buy grain at above-market rates anyways?), or sell it for increased rates.

Either way, for them to make a profit off of grain now, they are either going to pay the farmers less (Robair's concern), or charge more for grain-based items on the market. Things like bread, beer, etc.

Frankly, I want niether. I want the farmers to make as much money as possible, while preserving the current "low" prices of wheat and barley based products.

[Yogi]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

Yogi Yogi:

I didn't answer a question which I thought has an obvious answer, but here's 'my take' on it. Viterra and Richardson will make their money by reselling the grain they buy from the farmers.

Yogi, you said you WERE trying to DEbait before, but you are clearly being daft here.

If the CWB did it's very best to maximize the dollar amount farmers received. In order for the new companies to make money, they will have to do one of two things, if not both: Buy grain at reduced rates (didn't the CWB buy grain at above-market rates anyways?), or sell it for increased rates.

Either way, for them to make a profit off of grain now, they are either going to pay the farmers less (Robair's concern), or charge more for grain-based items on the market. Things like bread, beer, etc.
Frankly, I want niether. I want the farmers to make as much money as possible, while preserving the current "low" prices of wheat and barley based products.

Go back & READ my previous posts. I mentioned this concern already!

[commanderkai]

Robair Robair:

I'm starting to think you are just trying to piss me off.

No offense, if you're going to get pissed off by people wanting to understand both the value of the CWB, and why there's such concern after it's dismantled, then you're probably hurting your cause more than anything else.